Post by ike! Further clarification bottom Pg 4 Ike

[evenup]

If the company cared about the affect any bashing
or pumping had on shareholders, they would speak to us.IMO
With a few simple words from our Galant leader, all could
answered.

[ndjebari]

fishing4diamonds said:

ndjebari said:

Isn't he Belgian? How can he run for pres of the united states? lol.

DP.

No, we're talking about Urban. He's gonna run for president.

Sorry, my bad. I thought you were talking about Mano. Now I see how UC can be CEO of NVSE. lol.

DP.

[ike0075]

evenup said:

If the company cared about the affect any bashing
or pumping had on shareholders, they would speak to us.IMO
With a few simple words from our Galant leader, all could
answered.

I don't believe that is necessarily true. First we don't know the exact situation the company is in and why they have not been able to be more public with information. If this is about the naked short then that could be good reason for things to be hush because it has to be handled delicately so as to not effect the stability of the markets. Additionally the company obviously cannot go down the path of continuously discrediting rumors. If they fail to discredit a rumor then people will jump all over it.

I think it speaks volumes how ever power player that comes into CMKX talking about disclosure and informing the shareholders (Roger Glenn, Robert Mahue, Stocklien, Frizzell) only to go quiet themselves. Either they are each being paid off to cover for the bad guys or there is much more here then just a simple revoked stock.

[tmcdandcmkx]

I like it...The summary puts everything in perspective, all of us shareholders, small investors or big investors need to understand that we have to stay united with the company. Somehow, peace should prevail on every board, but it's almost like a real war of words b/c of some entity (DeBeers? who knows, but there is someone who does not like us shareholders) is challenging us and we as a united shareholder group of CMKM need to regroup and be at peace with ourselves and fight the real enemy. Wonderful post...thank you

[diamondjewels]

???Great post Ike

[ming]

"mano works for Debeers" ....he simply has a restaurant with his father and brother
"mano lives in antwerp" ...not at all
"mano has no credibility" : was this ever a competition to get the highest score on credibility?
he, together with the other belgians , tries to share what he hears with whoever decides to listen to what he is saying, rumor after rumor as he hears them, with no other agenda...
and will he be proven totally wrong in the end? maybe, maybe partially, maybe totally.
but at least he has the willingness and the guts to bring his rumors in the open public forum, instead of only communicating them via pm's to some private supporters...suggesting that he knows a lot, but taking no risks by sharing something that could be wrong...

[ike0075]

ming said:

"mano works for Debeers" ....he simply has a restaurant with his father and brother
"mano lives in antwerp" ...not at all
"mano has no credibility" : was this ever a competition to get the highest score on credibility?
he, together with the other belgians , tries to share what he hears with whoever decides to listen to what he is saying, rumor after rumor as he hears them, with no other agenda...
and will he be proven totally wrong in the end? maybe, maybe partially, maybe totally.
but at least he has the willingness and the guts to bring his rumors in the open public forum, instead of only communicating them via pm's to some private supporters...suggesting that he knows a lot, but taking no risks by sharing something that could be wrong...

Ming this was not at all meant as an attack on the Belgiums but rather an eye opener about all those that relay rumors (acca, Jay Adobe, tigerpaw, as well as others). Mano may be the greatest guy and trying to do his share to help shareholders but as you can see from the chronology of the rumors he needs to question the motives of those he is getting his info from and if they have ulterior motives that may be determinately to the shareholders. All of these people who are just relaying information need to think if it is helpful or harmful to continue to propagate the rumors. I have heard way to many stories of people who are fed up with them and feel the company is at fault for not putting the rumors to rest that they want to take action against the company. That would not be beneficial to us at all IMO.

[gosh]

fishing4diamonds said:

Holy toledo batman. What a post.

I have a question ike;

Could another "reason" be DeBeers? Like what if DeBeers was extremely nervous of having to share mining the Falc with CMKX? A good way to tie up any valuable claims that are still ours would be to create enough frustration amongst the shareholders to get them dissatisfied with say .03 or .05 settlement for a short position where they begin a lawsuit? Would that tie up the remaining company claims AND ASSETS being held in any trusts for years relieving any competitive pressure up there?

Just wondering.

thanks for this post. Especially coming from an admin on paltalk.

f4d~

it seems so long ago and far away that debeers was talked about all the time..
re shorting us
re jealous of us
re wanting diamonds to remain high priced
re wanting to control the mines for the above reason


PS I for one feel the belgians have no ulterior motive
they are trying for us is all

[tramp]

ming said:

"mano works for Debeers" ....he simply has a restaurant with his father and brother
"mano lives in antwerp" ...not at all
"mano has no credibility" : was this ever a competition to get the highest score on credibility?
he, together with the other belgians , tries to share what he hears with whoever decides to listen to what he is saying, rumor after rumor as he hears them, with no other agenda...
and will he be proven totally wrong in the end? maybe, maybe partially, maybe totally.
but at least he has the willingness and the guts to bring his rumors in the open public forum, instead of only communicating them via pm's to some private supporters...suggesting that he knows a lot, but taking no risks by sharing something that could be wrong...

..

[tramp]

i say it high enough time everyone jumps on acca like they do on the belgians.. acca is 100% wrong, and always is changing his predictions after jay or elo would say something..

while your at it, jump on elo to.

[islandtime1]

The one thing about all the posted rumors is "NUMBERS DON'T LIE" If you read Ike's postings of the rumors again, their is no way Mono is just a helpless victim with all those rumors and they never come true? IMHO

And If he was just being used as a pawn? Then wouldn't you be pretty embarrassed about being 0-20?

We want to believe so bad some of us(i've been guilty also) that we will believe anything as long as it favors US!

Read the rumors again and commen sence tells you something isn't right.IMO

Thanks IKE ( Their all wrong untill proven right.) IMHO

Island

[tombraider38d]

In a thread I started:

cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=tombraider38d

I could not believe the negative feelings toward a payment of .005 I saw. I am so glad to see this thread tell it in a way I could not possibly do. Here is the last post I put in there but if you have time reread some of the responses and see how correct Ike is.

Re: Is .005 a negative to you? Not me
« Reply #35 on May 18, 2006, 5:33pm »

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I have read every post on this thread and agree with every one, every one!!!

I have been in 3+ years and have gone through the entire rollercoaster as everyone else has, but, .005 to me is $150,000 for ~ $5-6,000 investment. Get real. I want them all to pay too but that percentage is way up there for 3 years return. And as was said if we do get it be assured there is more to come.

Another way to look at it is what did CMKX show, not did they hint around at, but actually show to deserve a high share price? When Shore Gold went in and sampled did they hide the results in a shed or not actually sample? I believe they went for it and are pulling diamonds out.

Sure we were NSS. Perhaps we were a target of a lot of bad people, but so much was self inflicted. Soooooo Whattttttt

What is I'll take the .005 and sort the rest out later. I want the whole thing and the bad guys to pay but until the first payment arrives the rest can't follow.

Tomb

[urbanswarrior]

Maybe its time Wodan and Mano go have a little talky with their SOURCE/Banker friend...If a friend of mine kept giving me false information....I sure would!...Maybe they could have their banker friend come into paltalk and tells us why all the false info

Just a thought...

If someone gave me bad info like that ALL the time..I sure would be Pizzed...But mano/Wodan dont seem to be to mad!!??

Whats up with that...

I can tell you one thing you can take to the bank!!..

No leaks are comming from Maheu!!

[tonypro]

It's simple if you all think about it,. If the co. would give SOME SMALL IDEA as to what is going on, or where we're at, or maybe what we should be expecting, then this thread, and others like it, WOULD NOT EXIST!!!!----JMHO

Tony P.

[supatrada]

you got that right. Hermainmer (sp?) brought the NVSE thing to the board, JAdobe gave the on it, then the Belgium crowd had a brand new plan laid out in full detail w/ new dates and everything within 48 hours. Give me a friggin break

It seems they painted themselves as clowns w/ that last NVSE detailed layout. omg... unreal. At least they've "told me" to pass their info right out through the other ear now.

onward! lol

faith4more said:

All I can say is Wow

How many times can someone be wrong and believed?

That puts it all in perspective

Changing story is what stands out the most. Things change in business deals but they don't change that much.

[joesixpack]

tombraider38d said:

In a thread I started:

cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=tombraider38d

I could not believe the negative feelings toward a payment of .005 I saw. I am so glad to see this thread tell it in a way I could not possibly do. Here is the last post I put in there but if you have time reread some of the responses and see how correct Ike is.

Re: Is .005 a negative to you? Not me
« Reply #35 on May 18, 2006, 5:33pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have read every post on this thread and agree with every one, every one!!!

I have been in 3+ years and have gone through the entire rollercoaster as everyone else has, but, .005 to me is $150,000 for ~ $5-6,000 investment. Get real. I want them all to pay too but that percentage is way up there for 3 years return. And as was said if we do get it be assured there is more to come.

Another way to look at it is what did CMKX show, not did they hint around at, but actually show to deserve a high share price? When Shore Gold went in and sampled did they hide the results in a shed or not actually sample? I believe they went for it and are pulling diamonds out.

Sure we were NSS. Perhaps we were a target of a lot of bad people, but so much was self inflicted. Soooooo Whattttttt

What is I'll take the .005 and sort the rest out later. I want the whole thing and the bad guys to pay but until the first payment arrives the rest can't follow.

Tomb

Well Tomb... my source told me that we would get a "minimum" of .54 PPS... and that's "minimum" and I believe my source because he is rather high up in this company.... actually.. he is the CEO... so everyone can take their .005 and invest it where the sun don't shine...

Not saying the Belgians are right or wrong... nor do I care... but Urban said... based on the valuation and the given NSS at the time... we could expect at "least" ... .54....

And I believe that that was long before he went to China... and long before the Chinese deligation visited Canada... gee.. wonder why

And before the Vice Prez visited Sask... (trust me nobody visits Sask... )

[funado]

A very good read, Ike.

Gives us all something to think about. That's for sure.

Funado

[tramp]

joesixpack said:

tombraider38d said:

In a thread I started:

cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=tombraider38d

I could not believe the negative feelings toward a payment of .005 I saw. I am so glad to see this thread tell it in a way I could not possibly do. Here is the last post I put in there but if you have time reread some of the responses and see how correct Ike is.

Re: Is .005 a negative to you? Not me
« Reply #35 on May 18, 2006, 5:33pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have read every post on this thread and agree with every one, every one!!!

I have been in 3+ years and have gone through the entire rollercoaster as everyone else has, but, .005 to me is $150,000 for ~ $5-6,000 investment. Get real. I want them all to pay too but that percentage is way up there for 3 years return. And as was said if we do get it be assured there is more to come.

Another way to look at it is what did CMKX show, not did they hint around at, but actually show to deserve a high share price? When Shore Gold went in and sampled did they hide the results in a shed or not actually sample? I believe they went for it and are pulling diamonds out.

Sure we were NSS. Perhaps we were a target of a lot of bad people, but so much was self inflicted. Soooooo Whattttttt

What is I'll take the .005 and sort the rest out later. I want the whole thing and the bad guys to pay but until the first payment arrives the rest can't follow.

Tomb

Well Tomb... my source told me that we would get a "minimum" of .54 PPS... and that's "minimum" and I believe my source because he is rather high up in this company.... actually.. he is the CEO... so everyone can take their .005 and invest it where the sun don't shine...

Not saying the Belgians are right or wrong... nor do I care... but Urban said... based on the valuation and the given NSS at the time... we could expect at "least" ... .54....

And I believe that that was long before he went to China... and long before the Chinese deligation visited Canada... gee.. wonder why

And before the Vice Prez visited Sask... (trust me nobody visits Sask... )

joe...

Take out the naked short and what would we be really worth?

cmki had a 8 billion tops o/s and a 2 for 1 split.. urbie retired 16 billion shares by the end of dec, 03... end of jan it was raised to 100 billion.

04 was the kickoff year for 'trap shorty' and a exploration tear.. we know the meetings in aug., 04..

what really would had been the pps?

[tombraider38d]

joesixpack said:

tombraider38d said:

In a thread I started:

cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=tombraider38d

I could not believe the negative feelings toward a payment of .005 I saw. I am so glad to see this thread tell it in a way I could not possibly do. Here is the last post I put in there but if you have time reread some of the responses and see how correct Ike is.

Re: Is .005 a negative to you? Not me
« Reply #35 on May 18, 2006, 5:33pm »

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have read every post on this thread and agree with every one, every one!!!

I have been in 3+ years and have gone through the entire rollercoaster as everyone else has, but, .005 to me is $150,000 for ~ $5-6,000 investment. Get real. I want them all to pay too but that percentage is way up there for 3 years return. And as was said if we do get it be assured there is more to come.

Another way to look at it is what did CMKX show, not did they hint around at, but actually show to deserve a high share price? When Shore Gold went in and sampled did they hide the results in a shed or not actually sample? I believe they went for it and are pulling diamonds out.

Sure we were NSS. Perhaps we were a target of a lot of bad people, but so much was self inflicted. Soooooo Whattttttt

What is I'll take the .005 and sort the rest out later. I want the whole thing and the bad guys to pay but until the first payment arrives the rest can't follow.

Tomb

Well Tomb... my source told me that we would get a "minimum" of .54 PPS... and that's "minimum" and I believe my source because he is rather high up in this company.... actually.. he is the CEO... so everyone can take their .005 and invest it where the sun don't shine...

Not saying the Belgians are right or wrong... nor do I care... but Urban said... based on the valuation and the given NSS at the time... we could expect at "least" ... .54....

And I believe that that was long before he went to China... and long before the Chinese deligation visited Canada... gee.. wonder why

And before the Vice Prez visited Sask... (trust me nobody visits Sask... )

Joe, this is what I was trying to say. There was talk about getting .005 If I'm correct .005 would be $150,000 to me and I'm pretty close to an average SH. As I said, "but until the first payment arrives the rest csn't follow". Now maybe they are right and we'll see much more but if you believe in the theories then the .005 will come first, am I wrong there?

This is the first I've heard it is "fact" UC visited China and a Chinese delegation visited us in Canada, or is that theory also?

I'm not on every day, but am I missing the CMKX PRs here or what?

Tomb

[john3339]

I don't suppose Ike is a poster on this board...

but just in case...


Thanks Ike.

john

[joesixpack]

Tomb.... obviously where UC and the company is concerned... once IBM got on board... nothing can be factual because that's the way IBM wants it.... so UC going to China a while back is rumor... imho... shortly after that rumor... the Chinese delegation came to Canada... and I know they didn't come just to visit with then PM Paul Martin because we all knew he was on his way out.... that and the fact that the Vice Prez then visited Sask shortly after the Chinese connection... just pieces of this mega puzzle....

Just curious.... where do you come up with the .005... any links or substantiation.... my (sorry Urban's prediction of .54 and again "minimum") makes sense when you consider the valuation... and if there is no valuation then were do you come up with the .005... which is way overvalued if we have no valuation... just verbal sparring with ya tomb... love a good scrap and if you are anything like the real Tombraider... lol... I'm in trouble...

[ike0075]

It seems that there are people who have taken my post and believe that it was a direct attack at the Belguims and questioned their motives. I would like to point out several lines that I wrote that shows that I did not have that intention at all. This post was meant to be an eye opener about ALL those that relay rumors (acca, Jay Adobe, tigerpaw, as well as others). The Belgium guys may be the greatest guy and trying to do their share to help shareholders and I quote from my post “The Belgium’s seem very genuine and sincere but do we really know who anyone is on these boards are or who they might be getting their information from”. Shareholders are craved for information since we are all in the dark currently and anyone of us can be used as a pawn to manipulate all the shareholders including the Belgiums. Based on chronology of the rumors I feel they need as well as all of the rumor relayers to question the motives of those that they are getting their info from and if those informants/sources have ulterior motives that may be determinately to the shareholders. All of these people who are just relaying information need to think if it is helpful or harmful to continue to propagate the rumors especially how it seems to be dividing shareholders and even frustrating some to the point of talking about actions against the company because of their levels of frustration. I have heard way to many stories of people who are fed up with the rumors and feel the company is at fault for not putting the rumors to rest and so they want to take action against the company. That would not be beneficial to us at all IMO.

The biggest reason I used the Belgiums is and I quote “I focused on the Belgium’s because they seem to be the most active in the rumor mill”. Additionally I wrote “I did not do this to bash anyone or try and say they have negative motives.” I do not know them and their motives and like I mention they can be all good. For this post they happen to be the easiest to find their rumors and predictions over the past 3 months. I did spend time to try and find post from Acca, Tigerpaw, Jay Adobe and others but they were not as easy to find their rumors and I couldn’t include each and every rumor relayer out there without turning this post into 20 hours of DD and 15 pages long. I was trying to make a point that we need to be careful and keep ourselves grounded but more importantly united and not let ourselves be divided. I am sorry if this directly offended people and there is no way I would ever intentionally do something that would create further division with the shareholders. All of my posts have always been geared towards shareholders staying tight and united and this was meant for the same purpose as well.

United we stand divided we fall!

Ikester

[thecwexperience]

icky...i'm w/ you 110% on this one...anyone who pretends not to get your point should be disregarded anyway...those parties just want to play semantics....i am also 100% for the COMPANY/TASKFORCE AND FRIZZELL...however i am amazed that someone would continue making proclaimations after being proven wrong time and time again....time to get united and check the motives of those who speak about 'what's going to happen and when' without the backing of the company...


;D

[maboa64]

Can we stop asking this dumb question whenever someone comes out of the woods with a new prediction:
"IS HE CREDIBLE?"
Every time I see that I want to puke

[thecwexperience]

1004...and just to piggyback off of that one..if the person has been wrong fifty-eleven times...then still don't ask...lol

maboa64 said:

Can we stop asking this dumb question whenever someone comes out of the woods with a new prediction:
"IS HE CREDIBLE?"
Every time I see that I want to puke