Post by ike0075 on May 22, 2006 12:17:30 GMT -6
Ok, so I am sorry I may have tricked you to come read this post with the subject but this post is about the rumor mill and I feel it is important for people to read the following. Mods if you do not approve of this thread please do not shoot me but rather delete it. If you really like it then I would be honored with a pin. 
Anyone who has been on Paltalk any time over the past two years knows me and knows the biggest thing I have strived for is unity among shareholders so we can fight those who have tried to manipulate and harm us. I spent a little time and I did my best to look up all the Belgium rumors that I can find and the dates they were said (I focused on the Belgium’s because they seem to be the most active in the rumor mill). (Disclaimer: I did not do this to bash anyone or try and say they have negative motives.) The Belgium’s seem very genuine and sincere but do we really know who anyone is on these boards are or who they might be getting their information from?
There is very little doubt in my mind that someone is in deep doo doo with their naked short of CMKX and finally a company is applying the pressure to if not publicly expose hopefully at minimum force to settle with shareholders for the manipulation they have been responsible. Someone is holding that hot potato and I can’t imagine they like that very much. That being said there are people here in my opinion that have ulterior motives or at minimum because we are so starved for information might be getting information unknowingly from source with ulterior motives.
Why you may ask would someone be positive and give encouraging rumors to shareholders on a revoked stock? Well the few possibilities that come to my mind are to keep getting shareholders pumped up and then discouraged over and over again. This can cause shareholders to get fed up and either decide to forget about CMKX and move on with their lives (think about how many aliases you know who were good people and where very active that are no longer around) causing us to have less strength in our united shareholder front or get shareholder so fed up where they blame the company and get involved with actions and activities that could be detrimental if not gum up the works to what the company appears to be working towards. Another possibility is that continuously these people are continuing division amongst shareholders and often turning shareholders against each other. I have many people that I consider friends and whom were friends themselves just to turn against each other because of the loyalty they might have to one of these people who have been relaying rumors. The benefit here again is the continuation of breaking the shareholders apart and making us no longer united to fight against those who have harmed us. One final possible reason behind putting out positive and huge $ numbers is they could be playing with our expectations. While a year ago .54 cents would have made anyone happy today with the much higher number circulating there would be people disappointed if that all that there was. Disappointed enough that it could cause an outcry by shareholders. Why you might think no one would be upset with .54 do you think there would not be many who would protest a nickel or dime today?
I have been on these boards and in Paltalk as an admin for the past 2 years and I have seen over and over the same reaction to rumors not coming true. I myself was guilty of these actions for about the first year or so. That is excited up to the deadline then suddenly distraught when nothing happened. I then turned angry at the situation and I felt the company owed us answers right then and there and we should demand the company to tell us what is going on. The fact is the company didn’t pump me up but rather it was from a rumor from an alias of someone I did not know nor did I know their motives. For me the most important thing is to see the company moving forward which is what we see through the task force.
The simplest question I can ask for anyone who might have any doubt is as follows: We seemed to have been given 3 divys without a cert pull before (GEMM, USCA, CIM) why suddenly did Urban and the company feel that on a stock that was revoked that they could have just issued the entourage dividend like the 3 previous ones and ride into the sunset saying they tried their best did they find the need to request from shareholders to pull their certs to receive this “final” divvy? Plain and simple is there is more to it. Point is I am not a basher and I have spend the past year (the first year I was really a pumper) on the fence waiting for concrete information to be able to make any real assessment of the situation. I have defended the company and Urban since the beginning and as long as they continue to fight and move forward I will continue to do so.
Regarding the rumors I am the first to defend the company and say business dealings of these matters are complex and do involve many delays but with these rumors when spaced out over time they don’t amount to anything but I think everyone needs to read then over in one shot and see if you feel this is just simple business delays as to the inaccuracy of the rumors or in your own opinion could their be an ulterior motive somewhere by someone not here for the shareholders best interest. It is easy to feel someone who is negative on the company having an ulterior motive but is not as easy to think that about someone who seems to be positive.
I did my best to find all the rumors by the Belgium’s but I know that I am sure I missed many rumors. Those that are very positive on the Belgium’s or any of the other aliases that relay rumors please do not hate me for this post but realize I am doing this because it hurts me when I see good shareholders that are constantly being hurt and perhaps even mentally manipulated which can end up hurting us all. We need to stay grounded in this fight and many of these people that we rely on for rumors from their sources at minimum show we need to have a healthy level of skepticism as a result of their accuracy on timelines and changing of story.
If I missed a rumor (over the past 90 days) please make sure to have an exact date of it and who said it and then post it in this thread.
United we stand divided we fall!
Ikester aka Ikeeeeeeeeee
March 7th 2006: Mano says we will be partying tomorrow. He is still sticking to his time frame.
March 8th 2006: Mano says 70% chance it happens today. 20% chance they have to wait til the end of the cert pull. Says Federal Reserve 10% chance they will "hold" the money for 30 days to bring CIM to IPO. Says there won't be an extension. (deadline was March 15th) Says 7.6 trillion dollars being sent out. Says 3 trillion naked short shares. Finishes with "If not today, within 30 days at the least".
March 8th 2006: Mano says Ameritrade will update their accounts at 4am eastern.(With our money)
March 13th 2006: mano update: had appointment with the banker ... money is till in the Federal Reserve ... only put money in Fed for 3 days ... 7.6 Trillion ... 1.47 or 1.43 per share ... Banker hopes Wednesdays PR will be good ... When the company PR's the money, we will have it ... No money before official PR ... interest is calculated every 14 days in the Fed Res, if it is held more than the 3 days ... Everyone will get paid, certs or not ... It is possible the brokers will take some money off the top ... Banker thinks Stoecklien will issue the PR ... the money is TAX FREE ... you may not get your certs, if you dont already have them ... Mahue is in charge that is why the dates can be wrong ... CMKX is the one who will get the most money ... but others will also be paid including but not limited to certs were only to prove the naked short ... the brokerage accounts will get the money first, and all without brokerage accounts will get a check ... 50% chance that the PR on the 15th of March will be the one that announces the money ... Mano was invited to the office of his banker source and visually looked at the computer screen and hardcopy and saw the account transactions which moved the money to the Federal Reserve account ... 7.5 trillion 787 million total moved to the Federal Reserve.
March 17th 2006: Mano says The company will have a PR anytime from the close of the market Today till the open of the market Monday. The Pr is going to be HUGE. It will be in 3 parts 1- why revocation 2-assets of company 3-buyout. We may get one huge PR or three back to back dealing with each part above It will probably happen between trading hours.
March 19th 2006: Mano says portions of the rumors he hears from his banker friend that he shares with us, he has been permission by said banker to put them out. There are other portions that the Banker and he have agreed are too dangerous to put out.
March 20th2006: Mano Update fine tuning last minute deals on the IPO. they are getting 6 companies together for cim and then they will split in 2, 3 companies in each…the mini-conglomerate.. .. cim will stand alone pr could come today or not, they could be in more talks, could be tomorrow but he said by wed…then comes the money and by Friday. 1.47 is still there..
March 20th 2006: further update from Mano holdup is mm's wanting a piece of the new pie, and cim will be standing alone, and then the 5 companies come together then split into 2..but it will be on a higher exchange…CIM is the mother company...all are under CIM
March 21st 2006: wodan says if we don't get paid btw now and the next 2 days, then if the counter continues to run to 703.5+, then they have to pay the real value of cmkx.. $3.50+ pay now 1.47 or later, the 3.50+
March 24th 2006: Mano has obtained a letter that is being distributed in Belgium from (I think) the brokers. He says he will be posting it later today when his friend, who is computer savvy, comes over. He is not computer savvy. regarding Entourage deal
March 24th 2006: Mano says No pr or payout until April 3 (earliest)... 3MM's settled late yesterday; part of the 'DEAL' with MM's was to WAIT on PR until April 3rd the earliest. PR and Payout in April; everything will be over. mano keeps saying he has "trustful information - doesn't know if it's 100% accurate, but at least 50% accurate..." mano said casavant is selling diamonds in Belgium 30% jewelry, 70% industrial... mano will drive to Antwerp and photograph the casavant diamonds...
March 27th 2006: While the monies sit in the Federal Reserve we are earning 1.25% every 14 days; on April 9th the monies will have been in the Federal Reserve for 30 days; monies normally cannot be held in the Federal Reserve over 30 days unless the papers of the buyout are NOT signed; but because we believe the Chinese have already PAID it's (ALL DONE - papers signed and sealed by the Chinese) distribution could come at any time after the PR; Around April 3rd...possibly the 4th we should expect a PR
March 28th 2006: PR after market close Friday....will mention value, ipo of cim, payout more to come... 2nd PR will give specifics of CIM IPO 3-4 weeks for money. No more that 4 weeks 5 days to decide on rights… payout will take place between Apr 10 and Apr 21 and CIM IPO will be on APR 27
March 31st 2006: Mano’s source still says PR today at 6:00 Vegas time. He is very Excited and nervous. He says he hears others are saying the same...not just his source. All the CIM details are still the same. Still one time payment of 1.47.
April 3rd 2006: mano said his banker said things has to stay quiet.. his banker friend did call him and mano indicated that things are good
April 6th 2006: wodan saying buyout next week, he said money is in belguim for them, so he thinks ours must also be in states also. still 1.47….1.00 for the buyout, .47 for the short..
April 10th 2006: Mano says we have to wait for Urban’s shares to be released On the 15th. Money not likely this week. Urban plans to retire 200 bill shares out of his 600 bill (30%). Money before the end of the month. He is hearing the price will be higher than 1.47. Filing for CIM in May. NS has been proven. Entourage has Big news that will come out in PR.
April 13th 2006: Mano stated all is on schedule. Money COULD arrive on any day after Sunday. His banker friend sees no other obstacles in the way. Mano had no idea of what day it could happen on, but stated that he believes the amount will still be over $1.50
April 17th 2006: Wodan says that we should buy up all of the rights to CIM as possible. His banker tells him that CIM will easily run to $600 post IPO within weeks.
Within a few years the value of CIM should be at least $1800(3 times more the $600 value) once the above ground plant is built.
April 26th 2006: Mano update news can come anytime, even this Sunday, dtcc is behind us, mm's, brokers.. he was invited to speak, the banker, but he is afraid to come to paltalk.. money can come may 10th to 18th, 11, 12th mano thinks.. everything is the same.. 1.00 , .47+interest, 2.00 over 16 qtrs.
April 26th 2006: Mano met with banker, All is a go. Dtcc is behind us...brokers are in line. 1.00 first...then .53, then $2 PAID OUT OVER 2 YEARS AS DIVIDENDS, News can come now any day. Money should be paid by May10-18th. Chinese have signed papers for 49%, all legal paperwork DONE… All should be done by end of May. Other info banker will not release yet. Rumor is that Vatican has participated in Private Placement in cim. We should have at least 2 weeks to participate in CIM rights. We will be able to buy 10% of float of CIM, so important to commit as soon as possible. divided CMKX by 10/then by 3..will equal amount of rights.
April 28th 2006: There is a meeting today between Stoecklein, Urban, Maheu, Frizzell and Dtc only. The Bankers opinion is that this meeting is about a press release soon to come out, possibly at the beginning of next week. Banks in Belgium are calling investors in CMKX telling them they see large wires for Billions of dollars arriving into the individual banks (not individual accounts) of CMKX shareholders. Money needs to sit for at least 2 working days to clear and so in USA it could arrive in our accounts as soon as Wednesday. Monday is holiday in Belgium so they would have one more day to wait to see money appear in their accounts.
April 29th 2006: Possibility of seeing money from now until the 18th of May, but could be any minute now . Mano personally feels that it will be before the 5th of May. Mano says he believes the amount will be the same.. $1.56. .plus $2 royalties as stated before. Money is at the brokers standing by our accounts. Brokers are waiting for Filing PR. Once Filing PR is made, we will get paid within two minutes.
May 1st 2006: Per Mano this Saturday morning: Filing could start any time.PR filing then a few minutes later all the money could be distributed...Filing and PR are the same thing. A few minutes after that the money will be in our accounts. Money is at the banks brokers and ready to be placed in our accounts. Also another confirmation of the Vatican involvement....also heavily involved with CIM. Four confirmations in the United States, have 20 days prior to the IPO to exercise your rights, money and IPO in June, seeing things before the 5th. CIM IPO the first of June or the first week of June. It is not trading days, but weekdays weekends included ok. First have to do the buyout, so we can purchase the pre-IPO CIM shares.. Getting alot of confirmations that this should start on or before the 5th of May.....
May 3rd 2006: filing is first and has to be this week and then the money. he thinks today, but this week.. this was the banker, mano is only relaying the info. the filing is for cim. should be the 1.00 first, then the .54 cents.. Everything is ready. Money is ready to be dropped into our accounts. Mano's banker thinks that the PR will be this expected to see the filing. Have to see the filing first. Must be this week so we can participate in IPO. Filing = value, payouts, etc. We have confirmations from United States brokers. Can do nothing more before the filing. That's all I have. If the filing today, in a couple of days the money will be in our accounts. The 2nd filing will be CIM.
May 4th 2006: wodan says news should be by tomorrow
May 5th 2006: Mano update....The filing can come any time now, even on the weekend. As soon as we see the filing, we will see the money. All shareholders will be paid the $1.00 Buyout and the .54 settlement. Only the shareholders who have requested certs will receive the asset distribution of $2.00 to be paid over 16 quarters.
May 9th 2006: From Woden this morning: 1) all is ready to start but Mahue wants to clean up some brokers...even though the DTCC covered for them with payment. 2) Mahue is mean and wants to get them before we get your money. 3) Woden will take any bet this week we get news from the company and money before 18th. 4) CIM is the big play $3-60 dollars. in 3 years worth over $1800"
May 16th 2006: Mano says $$$$$ in 48 hours. 3 payouts $0.56 $1 $0.125 but i say again MAYBE OR 1 PAYOUT POSSIBLE TOO …we hear news AFTER the problem with the 3 brokers is over… we don't know if they paid yet if not they go out off business today… so PR can come after close today or later
May 19th 2006: Will get money through account, if you have your account, if not, you will receive a notice in the mail regarding your payment…They want the brokers in Europe to give out all certs to shareholders, if they don't have certs they have to report that. No delay...it's only about... will pay all shareholders at once...in Europe the Center of European Bank, investigate all certs, want to have all certs. All shareholders have to be known by the TF.. Money very soon. Hear something Monday or Tuesday, should have $$$ this month so we can buy in the rights...
May 20th 2006: wodan11: last rumors that I am hearing is that Maheu is making his last move for CMKX and that he is taking out the bashers their shares disappear out their acc and cert get not delivered nobody will help them bad boys and basher will get no money and no right and if they are lucky they will not go to jail Maheu ty if we get our payout just let us know we follow you everywhere just give us a hint we will help you to clean out the markets
May 22nd 2006: Man says We will still get our money before CIM ipo on the new Nevada exchange June 5th. It will come as two separate payments but both on the same day. That will be the one dollar from the Chinese and the 56 cents from the settlement. It will be tax free. Nevada Stock Exchange WILL OPEN JUNE 6TH in PILOT MODE…15 COMPANIES WILL IPO IN THIS PILOT PROGRAM AND THEY WILL ALL IPO BY JUNE 21ST… THERE WILL BE NO IPO'S FROM JUNE 21 TO SEPT 15TH… THE NEW EXCHANGE WILL OFFICIALLY OPEN IN 4TH QUARTER… CIM WILL BE THE FIRST IPO ON THAT EXCHANGE… IT IS NOT IN THE NEW BUILDING YET. .. THE PLATFORM IS ALL AUTOMATIC AND READY TO ROLL, BUT NOT IN IT’S FUTURE LOCATION YET …CHINESE WILL PROVIDE MONEY FOR THE NEW EXCHANGE... THEY NEED MINERALS …THE EXCHANGE WILL BEGIN WITH MINERAL COMPANIES, THAT WILL BE THE FOCUS FOR NOW, LATER ON THEY MAY HAVE ALL OTHER KINDS OF COMPANIES … UC WILL BE THE CEO OF THE PILOT PROGRAM, LATER ON THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PERSON BECAUSE UC CANT BE A CEO OF AN EXCHANGE AND ALSO AN OWNER OF OTHER COMPANIES …ENTOURAGE, WILL BE GIVEN IN CERT FORM AND IT WILL GO TO A NEW EXCHANGE…. MMS DID NOT PAY FOR DIVIES WE HAVE FROM CIM … ALL THOSE COMPANIES DIVIES WILL HAVE TO BE COVERED IN NEVADA EXCHANGE AND WILL GO UP… ALL OF THOSE COMPANIES AND SHORE ETC, ALL MINERAL COMPANIES WILL REQUEST TO STOP TRADING ON EXCHANGES THEY ARE ON SO THEY CAN MOVE TO THE NEW NEVADA EXCHANGE… NEW EXCHANGE WILL HAVE NO ILLEGAL SHORTING…THIS WEEK NEWS FOR SURE ABOUT ENTOURAGE, AND MANO HOPES THAT THEY MENTION THAT ENT WILL GO TO NEW EXCHANGE… MEETING 2 WEEKS AGO WITH UC, MAHEU AND MMS WAS ABOUT THE NEW EXCHANGE… MANO SAYS HE KNEW ABOUT NEW EXCHANGE AS WODAN SAID, …WE DONT NEED MONEY FOR CIM, AND MANO CONFIRMS BECAUSE THEY WILL USE MONEY FROM OUR ROYALTIES TO PAY FOR OUR COST ON CIM, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP US AS SHAREHOLDERS…THEY WILL USE FIRST 3 TO 4 PAYMENTS FROM ROYALTIES TOWARD CIM RIGHTS/PURCHASE. .. AND WE SAVE ON TAXES . …WE SAVE TAXES ON OUR FIRST ROYALTIES PAYMENTS BECAUSE THEY WILL USE IT TO PAY FOR OUR CIM… REGARDING CMKX, WE WILL GET 10 SHARES PER 1 MILL CMKX FOR FREE INTO NEW FUTURE CMKX CONGLOMERATE… MANO SAYS IT WILL TRADE AT 100 DOLLARS …THE NEW EXCHANGE WILL BE GOOD AND CLEAN ALSO THIS PUTS ASIDE ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH RUSHING TO EXERCISE OUR CIM …RIGHTS AS IT WILL ALL BE DONE FOR US. AND LASTLY: THIS WEEK WE SHOULD BE SHOWERED WITH NEWS!
After reading these rumors from the past 3 months I think it is important for you to re-read the following paragraph that I wrote above:
Why you may ask would someone be positive and give encouraging rumors to shareholders on a revoked stock? Well the few possibilities that come to my mind are to keep getting shareholders pumped up and then discouraged over and over again. This can cause shareholders to get fed up and either decide to forget about CMKX and move on with their lives (think about how many aliases you know who were good people and where very active that are no longer around) causing us to have less strength in our united shareholder front or get shareholder so fed up where they blame the company and get involved with actions and activities that could be detrimental if not gum up the works to what the company appears to be working towards. Another possibility is that continuously these people are continuing division amongst shareholders and often turning shareholders against each other. I have many people that I consider friends and whom were friends themselves just to turn against each other because of the loyalty they might have to one of these people who have been relaying rumors. The benefit here again is the continuation of breaking the shareholders apart and making us no longer united to fight against those who have harmed us. One final possible reason behind putting out positive and huge $ numbers is they could be playing with our expectations. While a year ago .54 cents would have made anyone happy today with the much higher number circulating there would be people disappointed if that all that there was. Disappointed enough that it could cause an outcry by shareholders. Why you might think no one would be upset with .54 do you think there would not be many who would protest a nickel or dime today?
Anyone who has been on Paltalk any time over the past two years knows me and knows the biggest thing I have strived for is unity among shareholders so we can fight those who have tried to manipulate and harm us. I spent a little time and I did my best to look up all the Belgium rumors that I can find and the dates they were said (I focused on the Belgium’s because they seem to be the most active in the rumor mill). (Disclaimer: I did not do this to bash anyone or try and say they have negative motives.) The Belgium’s seem very genuine and sincere but do we really know who anyone is on these boards are or who they might be getting their information from?
There is very little doubt in my mind that someone is in deep doo doo with their naked short of CMKX and finally a company is applying the pressure to if not publicly expose hopefully at minimum force to settle with shareholders for the manipulation they have been responsible. Someone is holding that hot potato and I can’t imagine they like that very much. That being said there are people here in my opinion that have ulterior motives or at minimum because we are so starved for information might be getting information unknowingly from source with ulterior motives.
Why you may ask would someone be positive and give encouraging rumors to shareholders on a revoked stock? Well the few possibilities that come to my mind are to keep getting shareholders pumped up and then discouraged over and over again. This can cause shareholders to get fed up and either decide to forget about CMKX and move on with their lives (think about how many aliases you know who were good people and where very active that are no longer around) causing us to have less strength in our united shareholder front or get shareholder so fed up where they blame the company and get involved with actions and activities that could be detrimental if not gum up the works to what the company appears to be working towards. Another possibility is that continuously these people are continuing division amongst shareholders and often turning shareholders against each other. I have many people that I consider friends and whom were friends themselves just to turn against each other because of the loyalty they might have to one of these people who have been relaying rumors. The benefit here again is the continuation of breaking the shareholders apart and making us no longer united to fight against those who have harmed us. One final possible reason behind putting out positive and huge $ numbers is they could be playing with our expectations. While a year ago .54 cents would have made anyone happy today with the much higher number circulating there would be people disappointed if that all that there was. Disappointed enough that it could cause an outcry by shareholders. Why you might think no one would be upset with .54 do you think there would not be many who would protest a nickel or dime today?
I have been on these boards and in Paltalk as an admin for the past 2 years and I have seen over and over the same reaction to rumors not coming true. I myself was guilty of these actions for about the first year or so. That is excited up to the deadline then suddenly distraught when nothing happened. I then turned angry at the situation and I felt the company owed us answers right then and there and we should demand the company to tell us what is going on. The fact is the company didn’t pump me up but rather it was from a rumor from an alias of someone I did not know nor did I know their motives. For me the most important thing is to see the company moving forward which is what we see through the task force.
The simplest question I can ask for anyone who might have any doubt is as follows: We seemed to have been given 3 divys without a cert pull before (GEMM, USCA, CIM) why suddenly did Urban and the company feel that on a stock that was revoked that they could have just issued the entourage dividend like the 3 previous ones and ride into the sunset saying they tried their best did they find the need to request from shareholders to pull their certs to receive this “final” divvy? Plain and simple is there is more to it. Point is I am not a basher and I have spend the past year (the first year I was really a pumper
) on the fence waiting for concrete information to be able to make any real assessment of the situation. I have defended the company and Urban since the beginning and as long as they continue to fight and move forward I will continue to do so.Regarding the rumors I am the first to defend the company and say business dealings of these matters are complex and do involve many delays but with these rumors when spaced out over time they don’t amount to anything but I think everyone needs to read then over in one shot and see if you feel this is just simple business delays as to the inaccuracy of the rumors or in your own opinion could their be an ulterior motive somewhere by someone not here for the shareholders best interest. It is easy to feel someone who is negative on the company having an ulterior motive but is not as easy to think that about someone who seems to be positive.
I did my best to find all the rumors by the Belgium’s but I know that I am sure I missed many rumors. Those that are very positive on the Belgium’s or any of the other aliases that relay rumors please do not hate me for this post but realize I am doing this because it hurts me when I see good shareholders that are constantly being hurt and perhaps even mentally manipulated which can end up hurting us all. We need to stay grounded in this fight and many of these people that we rely on for rumors from their sources at minimum show we need to have a healthy level of skepticism as a result of their accuracy on timelines and changing of story.
If I missed a rumor (over the past 90 days) please make sure to have an exact date of it and who said it and then post it in this thread.
United we stand divided we fall!
Ikester aka Ikeeeeeeeeee
March 7th 2006: Mano says we will be partying tomorrow. He is still sticking to his time frame.
March 8th 2006: Mano says 70% chance it happens today. 20% chance they have to wait til the end of the cert pull. Says Federal Reserve 10% chance they will "hold" the money for 30 days to bring CIM to IPO. Says there won't be an extension. (deadline was March 15th) Says 7.6 trillion dollars being sent out. Says 3 trillion naked short shares. Finishes with "If not today, within 30 days at the least".
March 8th 2006: Mano says Ameritrade will update their accounts at 4am eastern.(With our money)
March 13th 2006: mano update: had appointment with the banker ... money is till in the Federal Reserve ... only put money in Fed for 3 days ... 7.6 Trillion ... 1.47 or 1.43 per share ... Banker hopes Wednesdays PR will be good ... When the company PR's the money, we will have it ... No money before official PR ... interest is calculated every 14 days in the Fed Res, if it is held more than the 3 days ... Everyone will get paid, certs or not ... It is possible the brokers will take some money off the top ... Banker thinks Stoecklien will issue the PR ... the money is TAX FREE ... you may not get your certs, if you dont already have them ... Mahue is in charge that is why the dates can be wrong ... CMKX is the one who will get the most money ... but others will also be paid including but not limited to certs were only to prove the naked short ... the brokerage accounts will get the money first, and all without brokerage accounts will get a check ... 50% chance that the PR on the 15th of March will be the one that announces the money ... Mano was invited to the office of his banker source and visually looked at the computer screen and hardcopy and saw the account transactions which moved the money to the Federal Reserve account ... 7.5 trillion 787 million total moved to the Federal Reserve.
March 17th 2006: Mano says The company will have a PR anytime from the close of the market Today till the open of the market Monday. The Pr is going to be HUGE. It will be in 3 parts 1- why revocation 2-assets of company 3-buyout. We may get one huge PR or three back to back dealing with each part above It will probably happen between trading hours.
March 19th 2006: Mano says portions of the rumors he hears from his banker friend that he shares with us, he has been permission by said banker to put them out. There are other portions that the Banker and he have agreed are too dangerous to put out.
March 20th2006: Mano Update fine tuning last minute deals on the IPO. they are getting 6 companies together for cim and then they will split in 2, 3 companies in each…the mini-conglomerate.. .. cim will stand alone pr could come today or not, they could be in more talks, could be tomorrow but he said by wed…then comes the money and by Friday. 1.47 is still there..
March 20th 2006: further update from Mano holdup is mm's wanting a piece of the new pie, and cim will be standing alone, and then the 5 companies come together then split into 2..but it will be on a higher exchange…CIM is the mother company...all are under CIM
March 21st 2006: wodan says if we don't get paid btw now and the next 2 days, then if the counter continues to run to 703.5+, then they have to pay the real value of cmkx.. $3.50+ pay now 1.47 or later, the 3.50+
March 24th 2006: Mano has obtained a letter that is being distributed in Belgium from (I think) the brokers. He says he will be posting it later today when his friend, who is computer savvy, comes over. He is not computer savvy. regarding Entourage deal
March 24th 2006: Mano says No pr or payout until April 3 (earliest)... 3MM's settled late yesterday; part of the 'DEAL' with MM's was to WAIT on PR until April 3rd the earliest. PR and Payout in April; everything will be over. mano keeps saying he has "trustful information - doesn't know if it's 100% accurate, but at least 50% accurate..." mano said casavant is selling diamonds in Belgium 30% jewelry, 70% industrial... mano will drive to Antwerp and photograph the casavant diamonds...
March 27th 2006: While the monies sit in the Federal Reserve we are earning 1.25% every 14 days; on April 9th the monies will have been in the Federal Reserve for 30 days; monies normally cannot be held in the Federal Reserve over 30 days unless the papers of the buyout are NOT signed; but because we believe the Chinese have already PAID it's (ALL DONE - papers signed and sealed by the Chinese) distribution could come at any time after the PR; Around April 3rd...possibly the 4th we should expect a PR
March 28th 2006: PR after market close Friday....will mention value, ipo of cim, payout more to come... 2nd PR will give specifics of CIM IPO 3-4 weeks for money. No more that 4 weeks 5 days to decide on rights… payout will take place between Apr 10 and Apr 21 and CIM IPO will be on APR 27
March 31st 2006: Mano’s source still says PR today at 6:00 Vegas time. He is very Excited and nervous. He says he hears others are saying the same...not just his source. All the CIM details are still the same. Still one time payment of 1.47.
April 3rd 2006: mano said his banker said things has to stay quiet.. his banker friend did call him and mano indicated that things are good
April 6th 2006: wodan saying buyout next week, he said money is in belguim for them, so he thinks ours must also be in states also. still 1.47….1.00 for the buyout, .47 for the short..
April 10th 2006: Mano says we have to wait for Urban’s shares to be released On the 15th. Money not likely this week. Urban plans to retire 200 bill shares out of his 600 bill (30%). Money before the end of the month. He is hearing the price will be higher than 1.47. Filing for CIM in May. NS has been proven. Entourage has Big news that will come out in PR.
April 13th 2006: Mano stated all is on schedule. Money COULD arrive on any day after Sunday. His banker friend sees no other obstacles in the way. Mano had no idea of what day it could happen on, but stated that he believes the amount will still be over $1.50
April 17th 2006: Wodan says that we should buy up all of the rights to CIM as possible. His banker tells him that CIM will easily run to $600 post IPO within weeks.
Within a few years the value of CIM should be at least $1800(3 times more the $600 value) once the above ground plant is built.
April 26th 2006: Mano update news can come anytime, even this Sunday, dtcc is behind us, mm's, brokers.. he was invited to speak, the banker, but he is afraid to come to paltalk.. money can come may 10th to 18th, 11, 12th mano thinks.. everything is the same.. 1.00 , .47+interest, 2.00 over 16 qtrs.
April 26th 2006: Mano met with banker, All is a go. Dtcc is behind us...brokers are in line. 1.00 first...then .53, then $2 PAID OUT OVER 2 YEARS AS DIVIDENDS, News can come now any day. Money should be paid by May10-18th. Chinese have signed papers for 49%, all legal paperwork DONE… All should be done by end of May. Other info banker will not release yet. Rumor is that Vatican has participated in Private Placement in cim. We should have at least 2 weeks to participate in CIM rights. We will be able to buy 10% of float of CIM, so important to commit as soon as possible. divided CMKX by 10/then by 3..will equal amount of rights.
April 28th 2006: There is a meeting today between Stoecklein, Urban, Maheu, Frizzell and Dtc only. The Bankers opinion is that this meeting is about a press release soon to come out, possibly at the beginning of next week. Banks in Belgium are calling investors in CMKX telling them they see large wires for Billions of dollars arriving into the individual banks (not individual accounts) of CMKX shareholders. Money needs to sit for at least 2 working days to clear and so in USA it could arrive in our accounts as soon as Wednesday. Monday is holiday in Belgium so they would have one more day to wait to see money appear in their accounts.
April 29th 2006: Possibility of seeing money from now until the 18th of May, but could be any minute now . Mano personally feels that it will be before the 5th of May. Mano says he believes the amount will be the same.. $1.56. .plus $2 royalties as stated before. Money is at the brokers standing by our accounts. Brokers are waiting for Filing PR. Once Filing PR is made, we will get paid within two minutes.
May 1st 2006: Per Mano this Saturday morning: Filing could start any time.PR filing then a few minutes later all the money could be distributed...Filing and PR are the same thing. A few minutes after that the money will be in our accounts. Money is at the banks brokers and ready to be placed in our accounts. Also another confirmation of the Vatican involvement....also heavily involved with CIM. Four confirmations in the United States, have 20 days prior to the IPO to exercise your rights, money and IPO in June, seeing things before the 5th. CIM IPO the first of June or the first week of June. It is not trading days, but weekdays weekends included ok. First have to do the buyout, so we can purchase the pre-IPO CIM shares.. Getting alot of confirmations that this should start on or before the 5th of May.....
May 3rd 2006: filing is first and has to be this week and then the money. he thinks today, but this week.. this was the banker, mano is only relaying the info. the filing is for cim. should be the 1.00 first, then the .54 cents.. Everything is ready. Money is ready to be dropped into our accounts. Mano's banker thinks that the PR will be this expected to see the filing. Have to see the filing first. Must be this week so we can participate in IPO. Filing = value, payouts, etc. We have confirmations from United States brokers. Can do nothing more before the filing. That's all I have. If the filing today, in a couple of days the money will be in our accounts. The 2nd filing will be CIM.
May 4th 2006: wodan says news should be by tomorrow
May 5th 2006: Mano update....The filing can come any time now, even on the weekend. As soon as we see the filing, we will see the money. All shareholders will be paid the $1.00 Buyout and the .54 settlement. Only the shareholders who have requested certs will receive the asset distribution of $2.00 to be paid over 16 quarters.
May 9th 2006: From Woden this morning: 1) all is ready to start but Mahue wants to clean up some brokers...even though the DTCC covered for them with payment. 2) Mahue is mean and wants to get them before we get your money. 3) Woden will take any bet this week we get news from the company and money before 18th. 4) CIM is the big play $3-60 dollars. in 3 years worth over $1800"
May 16th 2006: Mano says $$$$$ in 48 hours. 3 payouts $0.56 $1 $0.125 but i say again MAYBE OR 1 PAYOUT POSSIBLE TOO …we hear news AFTER the problem with the 3 brokers is over… we don't know if they paid yet if not they go out off business today… so PR can come after close today or later
May 19th 2006: Will get money through account, if you have your account, if not, you will receive a notice in the mail regarding your payment…They want the brokers in Europe to give out all certs to shareholders, if they don't have certs they have to report that. No delay...it's only about... will pay all shareholders at once...in Europe the Center of European Bank, investigate all certs, want to have all certs. All shareholders have to be known by the TF.. Money very soon. Hear something Monday or Tuesday, should have $$$ this month so we can buy in the rights...
May 20th 2006: wodan11: last rumors that I am hearing is that Maheu is making his last move for CMKX and that he is taking out the bashers their shares disappear out their acc and cert get not delivered nobody will help them bad boys and basher will get no money and no right and if they are lucky they will not go to jail Maheu ty if we get our payout just let us know we follow you everywhere just give us a hint we will help you to clean out the markets
May 22nd 2006: Man says We will still get our money before CIM ipo on the new Nevada exchange June 5th. It will come as two separate payments but both on the same day. That will be the one dollar from the Chinese and the 56 cents from the settlement. It will be tax free. Nevada Stock Exchange WILL OPEN JUNE 6TH in PILOT MODE…15 COMPANIES WILL IPO IN THIS PILOT PROGRAM AND THEY WILL ALL IPO BY JUNE 21ST… THERE WILL BE NO IPO'S FROM JUNE 21 TO SEPT 15TH… THE NEW EXCHANGE WILL OFFICIALLY OPEN IN 4TH QUARTER… CIM WILL BE THE FIRST IPO ON THAT EXCHANGE… IT IS NOT IN THE NEW BUILDING YET. .. THE PLATFORM IS ALL AUTOMATIC AND READY TO ROLL, BUT NOT IN IT’S FUTURE LOCATION YET …CHINESE WILL PROVIDE MONEY FOR THE NEW EXCHANGE... THEY NEED MINERALS …THE EXCHANGE WILL BEGIN WITH MINERAL COMPANIES, THAT WILL BE THE FOCUS FOR NOW, LATER ON THEY MAY HAVE ALL OTHER KINDS OF COMPANIES … UC WILL BE THE CEO OF THE PILOT PROGRAM, LATER ON THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PERSON BECAUSE UC CANT BE A CEO OF AN EXCHANGE AND ALSO AN OWNER OF OTHER COMPANIES …ENTOURAGE, WILL BE GIVEN IN CERT FORM AND IT WILL GO TO A NEW EXCHANGE…. MMS DID NOT PAY FOR DIVIES WE HAVE FROM CIM … ALL THOSE COMPANIES DIVIES WILL HAVE TO BE COVERED IN NEVADA EXCHANGE AND WILL GO UP… ALL OF THOSE COMPANIES AND SHORE ETC, ALL MINERAL COMPANIES WILL REQUEST TO STOP TRADING ON EXCHANGES THEY ARE ON SO THEY CAN MOVE TO THE NEW NEVADA EXCHANGE… NEW EXCHANGE WILL HAVE NO ILLEGAL SHORTING…THIS WEEK NEWS FOR SURE ABOUT ENTOURAGE, AND MANO HOPES THAT THEY MENTION THAT ENT WILL GO TO NEW EXCHANGE… MEETING 2 WEEKS AGO WITH UC, MAHEU AND MMS WAS ABOUT THE NEW EXCHANGE… MANO SAYS HE KNEW ABOUT NEW EXCHANGE AS WODAN SAID, …WE DONT NEED MONEY FOR CIM, AND MANO CONFIRMS BECAUSE THEY WILL USE MONEY FROM OUR ROYALTIES TO PAY FOR OUR COST ON CIM, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP US AS SHAREHOLDERS…THEY WILL USE FIRST 3 TO 4 PAYMENTS FROM ROYALTIES TOWARD CIM RIGHTS/PURCHASE. .. AND WE SAVE ON TAXES . …WE SAVE TAXES ON OUR FIRST ROYALTIES PAYMENTS BECAUSE THEY WILL USE IT TO PAY FOR OUR CIM… REGARDING CMKX, WE WILL GET 10 SHARES PER 1 MILL CMKX FOR FREE INTO NEW FUTURE CMKX CONGLOMERATE… MANO SAYS IT WILL TRADE AT 100 DOLLARS …THE NEW EXCHANGE WILL BE GOOD AND CLEAN ALSO THIS PUTS ASIDE ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH RUSHING TO EXERCISE OUR CIM …RIGHTS AS IT WILL ALL BE DONE FOR US. AND LASTLY: THIS WEEK WE SHOULD BE SHOWERED WITH NEWS!
After reading these rumors from the past 3 months I think it is important for you to re-read the following paragraph that I wrote above:
Why you may ask would someone be positive and give encouraging rumors to shareholders on a revoked stock? Well the few possibilities that come to my mind are to keep getting shareholders pumped up and then discouraged over and over again. This can cause shareholders to get fed up and either decide to forget about CMKX and move on with their lives (think about how many aliases you know who were good people and where very active that are no longer around) causing us to have less strength in our united shareholder front or get shareholder so fed up where they blame the company and get involved with actions and activities that could be detrimental if not gum up the works to what the company appears to be working towards. Another possibility is that continuously these people are continuing division amongst shareholders and often turning shareholders against each other. I have many people that I consider friends and whom were friends themselves just to turn against each other because of the loyalty they might have to one of these people who have been relaying rumors. The benefit here again is the continuation of breaking the shareholders apart and making us no longer united to fight against those who have harmed us. One final possible reason behind putting out positive and huge $ numbers is they could be playing with our expectations. While a year ago .54 cents would have made anyone happy today with the much higher number circulating there would be people disappointed if that all that there was. Disappointed enough that it could cause an outcry by shareholders. Why you might think no one would be upset with .54 do you think there would not be many who would protest a nickel or dime today?
