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Post by supercim on Jul 23, 2021 20:02:19 GMT -6
Yes. Too many bad gurus, liars over the years. Plus some of them had stabbed behind our back. It's time for the real people to fight for us.
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Post by moneybelt on Jul 23, 2021 20:50:02 GMT -6
When communications is made to the CMKM Shareholders it will be though the Transfer Agent. Whether it be from the DOJ or Attorneys. How else will we choose what to do with our R&R or our Dividends?
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Post by seagull on Jul 24, 2021 11:08:09 GMT -6
When communications is made to the CMKM Shareholders it will be though the Transfer Agent. Whether it be from the DOJ or Attorneys. How else will we choose what to do with our R&R or our Dividends? IF ... IF... That ever happens?? We don't even know if there are any of those?? After 17 years and no old team in sight for many many years... I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Post by Maya on Jul 24, 2021 14:42:14 GMT -6
When communications is made to the CMKM Shareholders it will be though the Transfer Agent. Whether it be from the DOJ or Attorneys. How else will we choose what to do with our R&R or our Dividends? IF ... IF... That ever happens?? We don't even know if there are any of those?? After 17 years and no old team in sight for many many years... I wouldn't hold my breath. "We Won!" and "Soon" killed off those who held their breath.This investment has been a heart breaker and yet some still have hope including me.I do not know if we did win but I still can see the possibility as everything fits a successful Robert Maheu operation stuck in legal red tape that will go away eventually.Holding breath and making life decisions based on "fact.PERIOD!" or Al's court case is not recommended.IMO!
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Post by moneybelt on Jul 24, 2021 17:12:26 GMT -6
My view has been we won the settlement with the DTCC,the Brokers, and others, and we have Dividends holdings with some 35 are J.V's and Corporations. That's the assets of our Distributions. We are waiting for the VALUE of our Distribution, That's the CURRENCY that we receive. PS When it was said that our shares are worth the weight it's in GOLD, I believe that with all my Calculations.
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Post by seagull on Jul 24, 2021 18:07:44 GMT -6
Uncle Jed——-At 7:30 cst tonight on the Telegram “End CMKX Chat” your comments will be addressed in detail with facts and the securities law around your post
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Post by supercim on Jul 25, 2021 0:10:06 GMT -6
I would be very happy if they return all the money I lost. No longer believe in those payment fantasies.
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Post by moneybelt on Jul 25, 2021 8:02:44 GMT -6
Most Bonafides paid attention to the data that was presented to us through the years. As we move forward, many events or taking place. For those that didn't they will lose.
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Post by roughcut on Jul 25, 2021 10:10:14 GMT -6
Most Bonafides paid attention to the data that was presented to us through the years. As we move forward, many events or taking place. For those that didn't they will lose. Paid attention to the data, presented to us, move forward, events taking place, those that didn’t will lose. All of those claims were around 17 years ago and still nothing. Please name one person who is working for shareholders besides Kulig! A name we can actually find and contact. There is none, nobody.
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Post by roughcut on Jul 25, 2021 10:11:46 GMT -6
My view has been we won the settlement with the DTCC,the Brokers, and others, and we have Dividends holdings with some 35 are J.V's and Corporations. That's the assets of our Distributions. We are waiting for the VALUE of our Distribution, That's the CURRENCY that we receive. PS When it was said that our shares are worth the weight it's in GOLD, I believe that with all my Calculations. Please show those calculations.
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Post by moneybelt on Jul 25, 2021 10:56:37 GMT -6
Not too many Bonafides don't know the group that is charge of our Distribution.As for value my investment I knew before I invested I was in the win.I am not going try to teach anyone about their investment after 16 years. As I know there has been many Matt that can to save the shareholders.
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Post by waterdog85 on Jul 25, 2021 13:50:01 GMT -6
My view has been we won the settlement with the DTCC,the Brokers, and others, and we have Dividends holdings with some 35 are J.V's and Corporations. That's the assets of our Distributions. We are waiting for the VALUE of our Distribution, That's the CURRENCY that we receive. PS When it was said that our shares are worth the weight it's in GOLD, I believe that with all my Calculations. Please show those calculations. rough cut we would all love to see those calculations but it’s a opinion, a belief, maybe it’s just hope that we have something coming. I have hope and that hope dies when Matt, MZ, Bruce, Fleming, Judy, Holly, Sheila etc stop talking about CMKX. Let’s just hope they stop talking when we are paid and not because nothing is coming
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Post by roughcut on Jul 25, 2021 14:56:33 GMT -6
Please show those calculations. rough cut we would all love to see those calculations but it’s a opinion, a belief, maybe it’s just hope that we have something coming. I have hope and that hope dies when Matt, MZ, Bruce, Fleming, Judy, Holly, Sheila etc stop talking about CMKX. Let’s just hope they stop talking when we are paid and not because nothing is coming Fair enough waterdog85 but after 17 years of the same BS getting us zero, even though the cert signup effort is going well, I can’t understand why everyone isn’t signing up when it doesn’t cost a dime. 17 friggin years I’m talking about here.
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Post by supercim on Jul 25, 2021 15:08:03 GMT -6
Those liars on Dinar Recap are shameful.
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Post by waterdog85 on Jul 25, 2021 15:32:39 GMT -6
LOL I included Matt in my list of names to go with the recent effort he is spearheading pretty sure he not a part of the DINAR recap stuff but he does appear very regularly on Mark Zs pod cast
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Post by roughcut on Jul 25, 2021 18:53:49 GMT -6
LOL I included Matt in my list of names to go with the recent effort he is spearheading pretty sure he not a part of the DINAR recap stuff but he does appear very regularly on Mark Zs pod cast He’s on there because MarkZ let’s him promote his effort for the CMKX shareholders who follow his show.
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Post by seagull on Jul 25, 2021 22:09:44 GMT -6
From Telegram “End CMKX Now” Chat tonight Let's clear up some MISINFORMATION about End CMKX Now. Truth#1 The purpose of End CMKX Now is to go after the liars and the fraudsters who have been holding back what rightfully belongs to us. That's all. It's not about releasing any funds. It's not about collecting payment from any value we might have or payments from possible trusts or fines and penalties. It's only about holding people's feet to the fire for defrauding us and collecting from that. Truth#2 You can participate in End CMKX Now and still receive compensation of any kind related to CMKX. You do not jeopardize future payouts by joining this effort. Truth#3 If money is awarded as a result of this litigation, 90% of the money collected will be given to you and 10% retained by the litigation corporation for their efforts. The BIG LIE going around is that End CMKX Now is asking for 10% of your "holdings" or 10% of your shares or 10% of what you might get in the future. Absolutely not true. It is illegal to do so. You still keep all your shares and your certs. Truth#4 It's a Win-Win. You get 90% if we win. If not, you pay NOTHING. And - you still are able to get any other future payments due to you as a CMKX stockholder. Truth#5 We need to verify our copy of the master shareholder list - and verify that those who join End CMKX Now are who they say they are - legitimate stockholders. Truth#6 You snooze, you lose. The cut-off date for submitting your certificate information is August 22 at noon CDT. No one can participate after the cut-off date. NO EXCEPTIONS. To enter your certificates and JOIN the effort of End CMKX Now: endcmkxnow.wufoo.com/forms/end-cmkx-now-shareholder-cert-submission/If you'd like to read up and be part of the END CMKX NOW community on Telegram, here's the invite link: t.me/joinchat/bnT6X-w2rb85Nzcx
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Post by seagull on Jul 28, 2021 2:53:13 GMT -6
Just posted in Telegram Chat: The "END CMKX NOW" team is forming a new corporation to represent the CMKX shareholders, who are verified shareholders, and are willing to sign a contract with the corporation to be a client. The corporation will hire the professionals needed to seek money for the CMKX clients who were defrauded by various people and agencies! Upon collecting any compensation, the corporation will collect the money in escrow and upon completion of any settlements pay the clients 90% of what is collected and retain 10% for the work required to achieve a positive outcome. It's that simple. No money required. No shares surrendered. Shares will not be accepted from anyone. It is the law. HOW MUCH WILL THIS EFFORT COST ME? 100 percent of nothing is nothing. So far, that is what we have gotten in the last 20 years. This new effort is only an opportunity -without risk- to receive something. It's a no-brainer. If the team pulls out a victory, you pay the New Corporation 10% of your return. Remember, 10% only if we win. EXAMPLE: We get $1.00 a share. You get .90 cents and the Corporation keeps .10 cents. You get the 90%, period. It will state that on your contract. The Corporation covers all costs for the professionals. SO IT'S 90% RIGHT OFF THE TOP - NO HIDDEN CHARGES OR LAWYER FEES? The money for the professionals/lawyers fees is technically coming from the investors in the New Corporation. Not CMKX shareholder clients. The lawyers will be paid by the New Corporation. You have no obligation to pay them anything. This was designed to help ALL shareholders. I think some CMKX shareholders think they are paying the attorneys. They are not. The working money comes from money raised by the New Corporation - separately from the CMKX shareholders. The only money the New Corporation gets from it's CMKX clients is a total of 10% for their efforts, period. AM I GIVING UP MY RIGHT TO RECEIVE OTHER RUMORED COMPENSATION RELATED TO CMKX - such as victim restitution and distributions - dividends, trusts, fines & penalties? NO. This has nothing to do with those speculations. It is totally unrelated. If they become a reality at some point, they will be entirely separate from the New Corporation effort. Win-Win. WILL I HAVE TO SURRENDER MY CERT TO THE NEW CORPORATION OR GIVE UP MY RIGHTS AS A SHAREHOLDER? NO. You keep your cert and all related legal rights as a CMKX shareholder. Shares will not be accepted from anyone. It's the law. WHAT IS THIS "NEW CORPORATION"? The New Corporation is its own entity with no affiliation to CMKX. The New Corporation will have both investors and clients. It is a business. ● Investors choose to purchase shares in the New Corporation just like any other company on the stock exchange. It is the money from investors that fuels the company and pays the professional fees. ● Clients are those who receive services from the New Corporation. Clients pay for services by contract. The investors in the new Corp are the risk takers. The CMKX shareholders are the clients. HOW DO I BECOME A CLIENT OF THE NEW CORPORATION AND BENEFIT FROM ANY COMPENSATION FROM THIS EFFORT? Submit your cert information so that the Master Shareholder List can be verified - and your certs can be verified as legitimate. NO CMKX form submitted owes anything to this effort. So enter your cert information, it's easy, secure and without obligation. After the certificate information is confirmed, you will be asked to sign a contract with the New Corporation which upon you will agree to the 10%. You can decide to sign or not sign. Always your choice. Only CMKX shareholders who submit the form, are verified, and sign the contract will benefit from any compensation received from this effort. (Spaces by Seagull for easier reading)
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Post by seagull on Jul 28, 2021 3:40:50 GMT -6
* Investors choose to purchase shares in the New Corporation just like any other company on stock exchange.* One Clarification. To become investors in this corporation is, 'By Invitation Only". Not everybody will be offered to become investors. Its a private business and the founder has a right to choose his investing partners. Best wishes
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Post by seagull on Jul 28, 2021 18:00:22 GMT -6
Listen folks, we are all in the same boat, Dave Vanguten is trying to get the MSL from Frizzell, Kevin West, Steve Kirkpatrick and even the SEC; I am not sure if TOL has it. Most all, if not all have been un-cooperative /sound familiar. The contract won't be sent out right away, it may take 2 or 3 weeks after the Aug 22 deadline. Even if you don't have a Cert, you can send proof of buying cmkx shares and Dave will give a pretend cert number to identify your shares. The cmkx room is in Telegram called End CMKX Now Chat.
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Post by Maya on Jul 28, 2021 18:21:26 GMT -6
I don't suppose the investors in the New Corporation will disclose who they are and why they are willing to invest in this new company.It's an interesting gesture that seems to indicate they have knowledge that there is cash waiting to be distributed to bonafide shareholders.Did they find the rumored frozen trust?Are they working with the trustees to apply pressure and end the delay delay game?What do these investors know or think they know?
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Post by waterdog85 on Jul 29, 2021 4:59:31 GMT -6
Interesting that this went from ending CMKX to another “New Corporation” and we get to invest into it after the 10% fee gets charged. HUM???
Before you start comment back I will say yes 90% is better than nothing. I never said I was not going to participate in this and never will disclose that.
So what is this New Corporations business plan and how is the 10% fee going to be incorporated into this?
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Post by supercim on Jul 29, 2021 15:37:24 GMT -6
I don't suppose the investors in the New Corporation will disclose who they are and why they are willing to invest in this new company.It's an interesting gesture that seems to indicate they have knowledge that there is cash waiting to be distributed to bonafide shareholders.Did they find the rumored frozen trust?Are they working with the trustees to apply pressure and end the delay delay game?What do these investors know or think they know? I prefer action than talk. Many including you have been guessing for nothing. Hate those shameful liars ! The world is getting worse because of those devils.
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Post by roughcut on Jul 29, 2021 20:01:26 GMT -6
Reminder, August 22, 12N is deadline to submit cert info.
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Post by seagull on Jul 30, 2021 1:12:39 GMT -6
Have you seen more push back on something you do not have to pay up front for ? Pick up the phone and call Steve K, wait he quit, Al is gone god rest his soul. Who can you call from the old company then ? Oh I know Ghostbusters because they all died of some unforseen illness. Call the DOJ wait they are not talking. Who's left ? We are..... holding the bag ! No more. Mo
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