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By: stockrich0
27 Dec 2011, 12:00 PM CST
Msg. 1055341 of 1055439

David, thing is OVER, & here's why...

A big indicator was TransferOnline. Shortly after that, the June 25, 2010 update from Kevin: he gives the # of shareholders, says he just returned from seeing Al Hodges giving him shareholders list, and makes a statement that all the company needs is MONEY to move forward and have a shareholder meeting.

Cut to summer 2011, when Al gets a call from a DOJ atty (who specializes in 'settlements & arbitration'...accident, I think not.). Evereything here is being documented in the court system.

The other day I noticed that the number 622 billion was established by the SEC, not Bill Frizzell's counter, also the period Leslie Hakala links to that number is "January 2003 to May 2005". We all know on Jan. 7, 2003, Urban threw down the gauntlet, and released a PR that basically said, we're under attack thru naked shorting, pull your certs... May 2005, was the end of the SEC hearing....In my opinion that is the beginning and the end of the STING.

My point is, whenever they lay out what they've done [or want you to think they've done] they don't issue PR's, they use 'court actions' to define everything.

So, in August (IMO) the DOJ atty called for the meeting. If you remember shortly before the SEC said, "Our investigation into CMKM is over."

The Roger Glenn trial was perfect theater; 'A reputable atty, and powerful law firm help us under the agreement we clear them in the end.'...and indicator that things were closing out.

Lowden's summer update, "All we need is money."...but he's very happy.

Now here's the 'KICKER" that I believe very few have noticed.
I believe there were only 2 Basic functions that had to be attended to in all of this...

#1...Collect all of the money.

#2...Establish who recieves it.

For years people would say the SEC were our partners, I couldn't see it. In August the came out and I realized the gov't is on our side.

Al Hodges job was to lose this case that's why he never presents any hard evidence. Why? Because Al Hodges case represents ALL shareholders, even electronic. All Hodges case legitimizes the naked short.

Who would have thought it was the government that made the case for only 'bonafides' to be paid. The gov't cites "Broad vs. Sealaska" that a sub-group within a large shareholder group can be entitled, while the whole group is not.

Hence, the bonafide shareholder. The gov't did it for us!

Now add, BOD leaving, new CEO who says he's moving the company from Tyler...'has Tyler been wrapped up'?

...and Kirk[atrick admits that many of the financial victories are "uncollectable" whic we all believed while they pursued these cases, which means the money from these cases was never the point.

But once again, a company president is saying "All we need is money".
If there are no "mystery men" and our owed money is uncollectable, what's he waiting for?

EVERYTHING IS WRAPPED UP.

Even Al has gotten rid of his office.

The DOJ settlement atty closed the door in August.
What will throw the switch?...an announcement about the "622"?
I don't know....but we're there, and everybody is waiting, even Al and kirkpatrick.

One last caveat, when the company distances themselves from Al during updates, that they support him but are separate from him, I believe they're sending a 'signal'...

...If you don't like the way this turns out, don't come to them.
they can't help up you.


By: davidjamesonpira
27 Dec 2011, 12:28 PM CST
Msg. 1055347 of 1055439
(Reply to 1055341 by stockrich0)

BRAVO~! best post yet

PS- you forgot RB having a memory lapse on prior post history

no coincidences


By: rosencrantz2010
27 Dec 2011, 12:38 PM CST
Msg. 1055350 of 1055439
(Reply to 1055319 by davidjamesonpira)

DAVID, just to make it clear once again for me, you are saying that the shares those of us retail investors -- like willy, cmkmalive, yourself and myself -- own and hold in certificate, are part of the 23B and the TOTAL number of shares owned by people like us holding certificates is ~23B. PLUS, URBAN and his family members hold another ~54B in certificate form. and ALL of the remaining shares out there are really just electronic shares that shorty is on the hook for and is in the process of buying back from URBAN (who bought them in the open market to begin with).

and that once all those NSS are paid for the money will be paid out to the 23B + 54B legit shares.

in other words, the ~9,000 retail shareholders (i'm including URBAN and friends in this group) own a total of ~80B shares.

and that the wrapped up company consists of just the ~80B shares and TYLER is the company that's helping to process the remaining naked short purchases.

does that correctly describe what you believe to be the truth?


By: davidjamesonpira
27 Dec 2011, 12:47 PM CST
Msg. 1055354 of 1055439
(Reply to 1055350 by rosencrantz2010)

I believe

703b total
-58b urban and family
-23b bonafides
-622b unregistered

the 622b never hit the market, always been in a SAFE and SECURE place

the dopes are paying for them to remove the marker from their books or they get dismantled


By: davidjamesonpira
27 Dec 2011, 02:32 PM CST
Msg. 1055401 of 1055440
(Reply to 1055397 by stockrich0)

stockrich,

Thanks for sharing...

I have enjoyed your posts very much, as well as a few others on here.

I've never claimed to be right in anything I post, nor do I claim to know everything, but I am pretty sure I'm REAL CLOSE.

I do like poking the dopes now and then and on occasion I poke a real shareholder by mistake. sorry

Anyway...I was just getting tired of watching the dopes control the board and figured I would sign up for the VERY FIRST TIME ON RB and slap a few around. All in jest of course as THIS IS NOT THE REAL WORLD.

The real world has our trust and much much more.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know there are real shareholders out there who like to read your posts.

good day to you


By: stockrich0
27 Dec 2011, 02:14 PM CST
Msg. 1055397 of 1055440

Rosen, Starbase, I've been around forever..

But I won't get involved in that chatter about WGS, Dinar, and the like. There are too many gurus pushing that as truth, and even more people willing to accept it as such.

...and I will not be mocked by evil posters.

There are many who believe like me, but they don't speak.

Lowriderbill is a friend of mind, a very level-headed knowledgeable shareholder who rarely posts. Neither one of us wants to tell anybody they're wrong for what the think, because we could be wrong as well.

So we're quiet unless the right audience is there that motivates us to speak.

I'm pleased if anyone has gotten anything out of my words today.

...and I'm especially thankful that David stopped by to shed some light


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By Chuckwheat:

As many know I've been in the trenches with the rest of you for many years now, waiting for our pet project to finally come to a meaningful conclusion. I've also watched as a few people's attitudes toward CMKX have soured because of their disposition or personal circumstances, and watched the affects it has had on the many boards we have to discuss it.

We remember places we used to enjoy visiting, like the original PB32, the CMKX United Board, several paltalk rooms, and such. Most were overtaken, IMO, by the power of negative suggestion...a small number of people who felt it was their right / duty / obligation / whatever to share their misery with everyone else, cast disparaging lights on anything and everything CMKX (whether the objects of their disdain were worthy targets or not), and generally introduce doubts, play off fears, and look only into the potential darkness of our story instead of the light...the things that are going right for us.

In her fourth book "The Goblet of Fire", JK Rowling provides an example of the power of negative suggestion. She writes this about a man (Frank Bryce) who was wrongly arrested of a murder he didn't commit, and the ensuing discussion among the locals that evening at the local pub:

The Hanged Man, the village pub, did a roaring trade that night; the whole village seemed to have turned out to discuss the murders. They were rewarded for leaving their firesides when the Riddles' cook arrived dramatically in their midst and announced to the suddenly silent pub that a man called Frank Bryce had just been arrested.

"Frank!" cried several people. "Never!"

Frank Bryce was the Riddles' gardener. He lived alone in a run-down cottage on the grounds of the Riddle House. Frank had come back from the war with a very stiff leg and a great dislike of crowds and loud noises, and had been working for the Riddles ever since.

There was a rush to buy the cook drinks and hear more details.

"Always thought he was odd," she told the eagerly listening villagers, after her fourth sherry. "Unfriendly, like. I'm sure if I've offered him a cuppa once, I've offered it a hundred times. Never wanted to mix, he didn't."

"Ah, now," said a woman at the bar, "he had a hard war, Frank. He likes the quiet life. That's no reason to —"

"Who else had a key to the back door, then?" barked the cook. "There's been a spare key hanging in the gardener's cottage far back as I can remember! Nobody forced the door last night! No broken windows! All Frank had to do was creep up to the big house while we was all sleeping…"

The villagers exchanged dark looks.

"I always thought that he had a nasty look about him, right enough," grunted a man at the bar.

"War turned him funny, if you ask me," said the landlord.

"Told you I wouldn't like to get on the wrong side of Frank, didn't I, Dot?" said an excited woman in the corner.

"Horrible temper," said Dot, nodding fervently. "I remember, when he was a kid…"

By the following morning, hardly anyone in Little Hangleton doubted that Frank Bryce had killed the Riddles. But over in the neighboring town of Great Hangleton, in the dark and dingy police station, Frank was stubbornly repeating, again and again, that he was innocent, and that the only person he had seen near the house on the day of the Riddles' deaths had been a teenage boy, a stranger, dark-haired and pale. Nobody else in the village had seen any such boy, and the police were quite sure Frank had invented him.

Then, just when things were looking very serious for Frank, the report on the Riddles' bodies came back and changed everything. The police had never read an odder report. A team of doctors had examined the bodies and had concluded that none of the Riddles had been poisoned, stabbed, shot, strangled, suffocated, or (as far as they could tell) harmed at all. In fact (the report continued, in a tone of unmistakable bewilderment), the Riddles all appeared to be in perfect health — apart from the fact that they were all dead.

The doctors did note (as though determined to find something wrong with the bodies) that each of the Riddles had a look of terror upon his or her face — but as the frustrated police said, whoever heard of three people being frightened to death?

As there was no proof that the Riddles had been murdered at all, the police were forced to let Frank go.

We see the rapid deterioration from truth ("Frank! Never!"), to the power of the cook's negative suggestion ("Who else had a key to the back door, then?"), to acceptance (The villagers exchanged dark looks.) to following the new negative group think (By the following morning, hardly anyone in Little Hangleton doubted that Frank Bryce had killed the Riddles.), to eventually ending up right back where it started...the truth. I see great parallels to this story and what I've seen over the years playing out on these boards.

How many among us want to play the cook, the excited bearer of bad news? How many end up playing the role of the landlord or Dot, people who let their good hearts be swayed by people like the cook?

And how many of our number just go along with the more vocal parts of the crowd who are seemingly headed in the same negative direction the cook has pointed them in?

Finally, I would leave my fellow shareholders with this thought: The cook wanted to be the center of attention, IMO, at the expense of Frank's reputation. Several others felt it was best to chime in after seeing the cook's passionate exclamations about Frank, whether through impatience or pressing personal circumstances. But the biggest crime (again IMO) was those people "just going along" because they didn't spend the time to reflect on things they already knew about a gainfully employed war veteran who was being railroaded based on bad feelings, bad information, and bad actions of the first two groups.

Ironically, none of it changed the truth:

Frank was innocent.

Something to ponder when we see our own cooks and landlords making negative suggestions at truth's expense...or we feel like just going along with the prevailing tide of negativity.

C-Dub

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Thanks Sunbeam777:

Paco49: Oscart, I think that we will get AL to give us bad news that our appeal was turned down or whatever. Not good. Only as cover for the government who does not want the public to know what happened. Then at that time they will pay us shortly after. Do I know this from a source. NO. However everything has been made to make us the shareholders look stupid. They don't want this out. JMHO

Paco49: All part of the grand plan from Mr. Robert Mahue a genius and real patriot in my mind.

Paco49: Hopefully this will end soon. I am getting very tired......

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