Post by rg on Jul 18, 2011 16:35:43 GMT -6
Today at 1:04pm, victorious wrote:
God bless you portrush. IMO when this company goes public it wont be for our profit but for the enrichment for those currently employed. IMO we the shareholders are part of the means to their end not our over extended fantasy land ROI (per Atty Hodges). I say fantasy land cause of the WGS psots etc.
You know it would be over by now except for the Hodges updates? Any truth to those or spin IYO?
And if you (and others) so disrespectfully ask why Im here?
Cause I PAID FOR IT! Ever share and IMO have a right to be here, say what I want and pursue this to the end.
I want the ROI now, then the truth.
This was said with a smile on my face. No insult is intented towards anyone just an honest to goodness discussion and disire for conclusion.
Looking forward to your response since you speak with Hodges and so many of our "leaders".
Well God bless you too, victorious. If it weren't for Him, I know I would be in worse shape...so I am thankful and appreciate your word of blessing. I will take it, and send one along in return to you.
As for your questions:
You know it would be over by now except for the Hodges updates?
I don't know...that doesn't seem logical to me. His updates are his take on what is happening from his perspective perhaps or some kind of message to people I don't know, and can only hazard a guess as to why. Emphasis on hazard. I don't seem to recall that Hodges is directing this adventure--but people think he is. Frankly, I don't know who is. But I do know the company plays a pivotal role because that's the stock we all bought and where our financial stake lays at the moment. And I do have questions about the company...several. Like why release West and keep Lowden? Seems Kevin had a better handle on the NSS issue and perhaps the claims as well...he was there longer and more involved since the early days. Weird to me.
Hodges has always commented on a bigger picture...the sting is what the Bivens seems to be about. That's a pretty big issue and many shareholders don't seem to embrace it, based on comments we've read over the last couple of years. But I do...I think there is credence. That said, if there was a bona-fide sting then I personally don't expect anyone (not Maheu, not Hodges, not Tyler, not Majcher, not the SEC, not the DOJ) ...will step up and tell us how it all went down. I don't think the Trust, the Trustee nor those that paid will ever be public. I think when push comes to shove, it all comes under the umbrella of the company some way, some how, some day soon I hope.
Any truth to those or spin IYO?
I truly believe there is a lot of smoke and mirrors out on the boards. I've thought long and hard about what will eventually be public. There are times when I think nothing will come out...how could it? They could have companies lining up saying, where's mine? Then on the flip side I think...how much of what IS out here on the world wide web is all speculation built upon speculation? In short...did we do this to ourselves? I think there is room for some of that to a reasoned thinker.
I really don't focus on those letters nor any update where I can't make heads of tails of it. Just send the check. I've been pretty outspoken in that regard, but it is the way I feel. I will be happy to learn the back story to what happened and how when I can read about it on a beach some day. And don't be fooled: just because I have a copy of the Chicago Manual and know how to use it, doesn't mean I don't have the same concerns, fears, questions or at times the anger that everyone feels. I don't think anyone is immune.
And if you (and others) so disrespectfully ask why Im here?
Just because you bought the stock doesn't mean you need to be here. I've told many folks...if your shares are bona-fide and you're registered with the new TA, you need not be here to catch any update the minute it hits the boards. If the announcement is real, you'll still be included. Besides, I think your email is the place to look...then the mailbox, but that's just me probably.
There was a time not too long ago when there was more mutual respect within CMKXnation. But the last several months have been more intense with vitriol and backbiting. It's kind of hard to stay optimistic when one is wading through a sea of anger-infused, unsubstantiated "I-just-gotta-get-this-off-my-chest" posts. Gotta tell you...I walked away recently for quite some time. Every once and while a break is just needed and imo, worth it. Give it some thought. Again, if bona-fide--nothing will happen without you. That's a comforting thought, isn't it?
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You know victorious, you're not unlike most shareholders I come across. Everyone wants it to end NOW. Everyone has questions without answers and their own version of what happened and why. Some boards seem to major on their own interpretation of presumed inside insight...as if being a member of their closed community begets a bigger ROI or getting one sooner.
It won't happen that way is what I've been told. When it happens, whatever happens, it happens for all bona-fide shareholders. There are lots of theories in this regard...everything from how much, to how often, to whether the Dinar is involved, New Corp, Frizzell's claw-backs, or all of the above. For the honest shareholder, imo since you asked, it comes down to those 4 simple words again:
Just send the check.
My best regards to you. I think I've answered you as directly as I possibly could. I hope it was helpful in some measure.
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