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Post by Twist Capper on May 16, 2008 16:25:22 GMT -6
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Post by Twist Capper on May 16, 2008 16:28:45 GMT -6
12 IT is FURTHER ORDERED, ADJUDGED, AND DECREED that Edwards 13 shall pay disgorgement of il-gotten gains, prejudgment interest thereon, and a civil 14 penalty pursuant to Section 20(d) of the Securities Act, 15 U.S.C. § 77t(d). The 15 Court shall determine the amounts of the disgorgement and civil penalty upon 16 motion of the Securities and Exchange Commission ("Commission"). 17 Prejudgment interest shall be calculated pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1961 from 18 March 5, 2003. In connection with the Commission's motion for disgorgement 19 and/or civil penalties, and at any hearing held on such a motion: (a) Edwards wil 20 be precluded from arguing that he did not violate the federal securities laws as 21 alleged in the Complaint; (b) Edwards may not challenge the validity of this 22 Consent or the Judgment; (c) solely for the purposes of such motion, the 23 allegations of the Complaint shall be accepted as and deemed true by the Court; 24 and (d) the Court may determine the issues raised in the motion on the basis of 25 affidavits, declarations, excerpts of sworn deposition or investigative testimony, 26 and documentary evidence, without regard to the standards for summary judgment 27 contained in Rule 56(c) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. In connection 28
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Post by Twist Capper on May 16, 2008 16:31:51 GMT -6
Now, before anyone goes and gets overly excited......the beginning of the document states that Edwards agrees to comply - not necessarily admitting guilt..... How many times have we seen SEC litigation to this effect ( especially the "big boys" ) with minor fines in comparison to total monies? I'm not expecting a lot from this - if anything is even there - or - left to be disgorged. TC
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Post by veritasvincit on May 16, 2008 17:18:39 GMT -6
I think Edwards cut a deal, (maybe to spare himself, or lesson charges from the DOJ), and is blabbing like there's no tomorrow. IMHO, of course.
Hopefully, dominoes...
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Post by tonypro on May 16, 2008 17:20:28 GMT -6
12 IT is FURTHER ORDERED, ADJUDGED, AND DECREED that Edwards 13 shall pay disgorgement of il-gotten gains, prejudgment interest thereon, and a civil 14 penalty pursuant to Section 20(d) of the Securities Act, 15 U.S.C. § 77t(d). The 15 Court shall determine the amounts of the disgorgement and civil penalty upon 16 motion of the Securities and Exchange Commission ("Commission"). 17 Prejudgment interest shall be calculated pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1961 from 18 March 5, 2003. In connection with the Commission's motion for disgorgement 19 and/or civil penalties, and at any hearing held on such a motion: (a) Edwards wil 20 be precluded from arguing that he did not violate the federal securities laws as 21 alleged in the Complaint; (b) Edwards may not challenge the validity of this 22 Consent or the Judgment; (c) solely for the purposes of such motion, the 23 allegations of the Complaint shall be accepted as and deemed true by the Court; 24 and (d) the Court may determine the issues raised in the motion on the basis of 25 affidavits, declarations, excerpts of sworn deposition or investigative testimony, 26 and documentary evidence, without regard to the standards for summary judgment 27 contained in Rule 56(c) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. In connection 28 Over 5 years of prejudgement interest...... even on a small amount, that could add up.
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Post by Twist Capper on May 16, 2008 18:43:43 GMT -6
Could be Tony........
Everyone should also remember this is still a "Civil" case - not a "Criminal" case......and I would think any monies in penalties and disgorgement goes to the SEC first.....
........not Tyler.
TC
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Post by saturn on May 16, 2008 19:51:40 GMT -6
How much juice can you squeeze out of a lemon if someone has already used it for lemonade?
Saturn
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Post by noholes2deep on May 16, 2008 20:54:46 GMT -6
Saturn Exactly, 64 mil.div by 673 bil is somewhere around .00009509 way less than most of us paid.....someone anyone tell me something good.....
Troy
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Post by TexasPride on May 16, 2008 23:02:12 GMT -6
Definition of Rule 144. A Securities and Exchange Commission rule that sets the conditions under which restricted, unregistered and control securities can be sold. These are the five conditions that must be met for these securities to be sold: 1. The prescribed holding period must be met. 2. There is an 'adequate' amount of current information available to the public regarding the historical performance of the security. 3. The amount to be sold is less than 1% of the shares outstanding and accounts for less than 1% of the average of the previous four weeks' trading volume. 4. All of the normal trading conditions that apply to any trade have been met. 5. If wishing to sell more than 500 shares or an amount worth more than $10,000, the seller must file a form with the SEC before the sale. As we all know, John Edwards sold billions, upon billions of unregistered securities, through various brokers, including Crown and NevWest, in direct violation of Rule 144. If I understand the recently released documents correctly, I suspect these shares will be canceled and our share structure will be adjusted accordingly.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2008 23:09:10 GMT -6
Agreed, tex.
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Post by ivory on May 16, 2008 23:28:38 GMT -6
IMO - CMKX will win every case from here and hope the money from brokers, bankers, hedgies and DTC will be 100/1000 times bigger.... 100to1 & Molley M White! www.zshare.net/audio/11370096704ffcd1/
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Post by veritasvincit on May 17, 2008 7:58:51 GMT -6
Saturn Exactly, 64 mil.div by 673 bil is somewhere around .00009509 way less than most of us paid.....someone anyone tell me something good..... Troy Edwards is the FIRST to plead "no contest". (essentially, , , I'm guilty) Tex, Victory, both excellent points. Hopefully the shares that J.E. dumped will be canceled. There are more fish to fry, lots of guilty parties in this saga... I'm sure a few have very deep pockets. To expand upon Saturn's analogy, I think this situation is more a lemon TREE squeezing than just a solitary little ol' lemon. *cough* crook.
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