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Post by shroomman63 on Apr 10, 2008 16:36:58 GMT -6
www.cmkmdiamondsinc.com/ceo_index.html4-10-08 Dear Shareholders, On Monday, April 7, 2008 the Company was served with a lawsuit from the Securities and Exchange Commission. The SEC is seeking injunctive relief and disgorgement of profits from numerous parties who were involved with the Company in the past. At the time this lawsuit was filed, I was out of town on Company business and was not able to return to the office until this morning. As you can well imagine, there are many sensitive issues that must be discussed with our corporate legal counsel and with the SEC before any official statements can be released to the public. At this time the Company stands firmly behind the findings of the SEC as they are explained in the lawsuit. Since I was appointed sole officer and director in March of 2007, the Company has cooperated fully with the SEC investigation and I look forward to continuing this relationship. As documents and other information become available for release to the public, we will post them on the Company website. Sincerely, Kevin West CEO, President & Chairman
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Post by minuteman on Apr 10, 2008 16:57:44 GMT -6
Which is it Kevin,
"Let it be known that there have not been any law enforcement agencies nor any regulatory bodies (SEC and others) that have contacted me to request my help or my assistance in any of their investigations." (CEO Update March 3, 2008)
or
"Since I was appointed sole officer and director in March of 2007, the Company has cooperated fully with the SEC investigation and I look forward to continuing this relationship." (CEO Update April 10, 2008)
~Minuteman
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Post by shroomman63 on Apr 10, 2008 17:03:05 GMT -6
 i was just posting the exact same thing Which is it Kevin, "Let it be known that there have not been any law enforcement agencies nor any regulatory bodies (SEC and others) that have contacted me to request my help or my assistance in any of their investigations." (CEO Update March 3, 2008) or "Since I was appointed sole officer and director in March of 2007, the Company has cooperated fully with the SEC investigation and I look forward to continuing this relationship." (CEO Update April 10, 2008) ~Minuteman
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Post by veritasvincit on Apr 10, 2008 17:04:30 GMT -6
 These updates get better and better. Too funny...
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Post by westburbs on Apr 10, 2008 17:07:58 GMT -6
Which is it Kevin, "Let it be known that there have not been any law enforcement agencies nor any regulatory bodies (SEC and others) that have contacted me to request my help or my assistance in any of their investigations." (CEO Update March 3, 2008) or "Since I was appointed sole officer and director in March of 2007, the Company has cooperated fully with the SEC investigation and I look forward to continuing this relationship." (CEO Update April 10, 2008) ~Minuteman Excellent find! I was remembering the same. Which kevin are we to believe? |
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Post by ready4apr on Apr 10, 2008 17:43:33 GMT -6
Wow, this whole thing is getting ridiculous-er and ridiculous-er by the minute!
Gaping holes! UC should start teaching these guys how to lie. At least his "alleged" lies weren't glaring!
He fooled everybody, especially Kevin and Bill, right up to the end, lol. For years, I might add....fooled us
all (Maheu, Glenn, Stoecklein included!) Fit in one lie right after the other, and nobody saw it....
Laurie
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Post by logictx on Apr 10, 2008 18:48:18 GMT -6
Aah, yet another 'CEO Upchuck' for us to ponder...
My favorite part is "At this time the Company stands firmly behind the findings of the SEC as they are explained in the lawsuit. "
I am supposing that the wording "At this time" means he (they) has/have allowed for wiggle-room as to what they will stand behind tomorrow.
This is better than 'General Hospital' and 'Edge of Night' combined!
I think we could name it "As the Stomach Turns".
I guess he was 'away on company business' in Canada, making sure the non-existant core samples were still not there.
I wish I had the the brains of most of you who do such a great job seeing thru the smoke. I love this board. logictx Long and Strong
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Post by logictx on Apr 10, 2008 18:49:53 GMT -6
Sorry. Meant "smoke" not "some". Tole ya I was dumb.
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Post by TexasPride on Apr 10, 2008 18:58:06 GMT -6
I changed "some" to "smoke" for ya... (  )  P.S. - Kevin really should read his previous FAQ's and updates, before issuing a new one... Good catch Minuteman. |
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Post by logictx on Apr 10, 2008 19:01:43 GMT -6
YOU DA MAN! Great to have you at my back!
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Post by tonypro on Apr 10, 2008 19:05:45 GMT -6
www.cmkmdiamondsinc.com/ceo_index.html4-10-08 Dear Shareholders, On Monday, April 7, 2008 the Company was served with a lawsuit from the Securities and Exchange Commission. The SEC is seeking injunctive relief and disgorgement of profits from numerous parties who were involved with the Company in the past. At the time this lawsuit was filed, I was out of town on Company business and was not able to return to the office until this morning. As you can well imagine, there are many sensitive issues that must be discussed with our corporate legal counsel and with the SEC before any official statements can be released to the public. At this time the Company stands firmly behind the findings of the SEC as they are explained in the lawsuit. Since I was appointed sole officer and director in March of 2007, the Company has cooperated fully with the SEC investigation and I look forward to continuing this relationship. As documents and other information become available for release to the public, we will post them on the Company website. Sincerely, Kevin West CEO, President & Chairman Seems to me he's been sleeping at the wheel, and since he doesn't know which road to turn on, I hope he doesn't crash or take us in the wrong direction. I also hope his business trip didn't require more than a city bus token because surely by now the $500, and change has been depleted. ....... .....or maybe he he wasn't able to return until this morning because it was a really long walk...  Tony P.  |
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Post by hunter3 on Apr 10, 2008 21:35:01 GMT -6
i guess his upper lip forgot what is lower lip had said--flip-flop---lol
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Post by stevecnz on Apr 11, 2008 6:35:06 GMT -6
It saddens me that certain individuals on this board take great delight in ridiculing Kevin at every opportunity. Its almost as if Kevin and Bill are considered to be the ones who have wronged us, rather than Urban and his cronies. Or do you still believe that in spite of all the evidence, that Urban is one of the good guys, and Kevin and Bill are just getting in the way of us getting paid??
Kevin deserves our respect and thanks, not ridicule. He and Bill are working their butts off for us. I know there are plenty of unanswered questions, but to continue to believe the lies of Acca, Jay Adobe, et al is just living in denial, plain and simple. It's natural to want to vent anger and frustration, but the target of our anger should be Urban, Edwards, etc, not Kevin and Bill.
For those that still believe in Urban, what would it take to convince you that he and Edwards scammed us?
It seems to me that this board has a tendancy to latch onto minor mistakes and apparant contradictions made by Kevin and Bill, and to blow them all out of proportion in an effort to keep alive the coverup theories and dreams of riches just around the corner. The latest example is a case in point. Apparantly there is a contradiction between:
"Let it be known that there have not been any law enforcement agencies nor any regulatory bodies (SEC and others) that have contacted me to request my help or my assistance in any of their investigations." (CEO Update March 3, 2008)
and
"Since I was appointed sole officer and director in March of 2007, the Company has cooperated fully with the SEC investigation and I look forward to continuing this relationship." (CEO Update April 10, 2008)
If the original poster had bothered to include the full quote from the March 3 update, rather than taking that one sentence out of context, it is obvious that there is no contradiction. Here is the complete paragraph from the March 3 update:
"Let it be known that there have not been any law enforcement agencies nor any regulatory bodies (SEC and others) that have contacted me to request my help or my assistance in any of their investigations. However, I did make personal contact with many of them and have since provided numerous files and documents which contained information that I believe may be of some help to government investigators. It should come as no surprise that there are criminal investigations and SEC enforcement investigations that have been ongoing in CMKM for several years now. "
So, Kevin initiated contact with the SEC (not vice-versa), and co-operated with them. There is no contradiction. Trying to make an issue out of this just demonstrates the extent to which some will go to keep the last few strands of hope alive.
I don't expect this post will have much affect. I just find it rather ironic that PB88 was formed to get away from the continual bashing of Urban on PB66, but it seems that bashing Kevin and Bill (the very ones who are trying to help us) is fine. Sad. Very sad.
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Post by okie on Apr 11, 2008 9:13:36 GMT -6
It saddens me that certain individuals on this board take great delight in ridiculing Kevin at every opportunity. Its almost as if Kevin and Bill are considered to be the ones who have wronged us, rather than Urban and his cronies. Or do you still believe that in spite of all the evidence, that Urban is one of the good guys, and Kevin and Bill are just getting in the way of us getting paid?? Kevin deserves our respect and thanks, not ridicule. He and Bill are working their butts off for us. I know there are plenty of unanswered questions, but to continue to believe the lies of Acca, Jay Adobe, et al is just living in denial, plain and simple. It's natural to want to vent anger and frustration, but the target of our anger should be Urban, Edwards, etc, not Kevin and Bill. For those that still believe in Urban, what would it take to convince you that he and Edwards scammed us? It seems to me that this board has a tendancy to latch onto minor mistakes and apparant contradictions made by Kevin and Bill, and to blow them all out of proportion in an effort to keep alive the coverup theories and dreams of riches just around the corner. The latest example is a case in point. Apparantly there is a contradiction between: "Let it be known that there have not been any law enforcement agencies nor any regulatory bodies (SEC and others) that have contacted me to request my help or my assistance in any of their investigations." (CEO Update March 3, 2008) and "Since I was appointed sole officer and director in March of 2007, the Company has cooperated fully with the SEC investigation and I look forward to continuing this relationship." (CEO Update April 10, 2008) If the original poster had bothered to include the full quote from the March 3 update, rather than taking that one sentence out of context, it is obvious that there is no contradiction. Here is the complete paragraph from the March 3 update: "Let it be known that there have not been any law enforcement agencies nor any regulatory bodies (SEC and others) that have contacted me to request my help or my assistance in any of their investigations. However, I did make personal contact with many of them and have since provided numerous files and documents which contained information that I believe may be of some help to government investigators. It should come as no surprise that there are criminal investigations and SEC enforcement investigations that have been ongoing in CMKM for several years now. " So, Kevin initiated contact with the SEC (not vice-versa), and co-operated with them. There is no contradiction. Trying to make an issue out of this just demonstrates the extent to which some will go to keep the last few strands of hope alive. I don't expect this post will have much affect. I just find it rather ironic that PB88 was formed to get away from the continual bashing of Urban on PB66, but it seems that bashing Kevin and Bill (the very ones who are trying to help us) is fine. Sad. Very sad. Very good post stevecnz.......I couldn't agree more...... ......and thanks Bill and Kevin........ United we still stand.....and WIN!!!!!!!......In God we trust......okie |
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Post by veritasvincit on Apr 11, 2008 11:02:58 GMT -6
I see a pattern emerging on the two CMKX related boards I still frequent. Anyone else spot it? He and Bill are working their butts off for us. [/size] I have a couple questions for you stevecnz... Do you have proof that Kevin and Bill are "working their butts off for us"? Or, are you simply taking their word for it? Are you in communication with the Tyler group? Simple questions... because really, no one has ever lied to the shareholders of this company.Let it be known that there have not been any law enforcement agencies nor any regulatory bodies (SEC and others) that have contacted me to request my help or my assistance in any of their investigations. However, I did make personal contact with many of them and have since provided numerous files and documents which contained information that I believe may be of some help to government investigators. It should come as no surprise that there are criminal investigations and SEC enforcement investigations that have been ongoing in CMKM for several years now. Trying to make an issue out of this just demonstrates the extent to which some will go to keep the last few strands of hope alive. |
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Post by stevecnz on Apr 11, 2008 15:38:21 GMT -6
I have a couple questions for you stevecnz... Do you have proof that Kevin and Bill are "working their butts off for us"? Or, are you simply taking their word for it? Are you in communication with the Tyler group? Simple questions... because really, no one has ever lied to the shareholders of this company. I personally am not in contact with Kevin and Bill, but there are more than a few shareholders who are (some of whom have even visited their offices) and who vouch for them. The documents published on the company website and the lawsuits that Kevin and Bill have initiated on our behalf (which can be verified independently) provide ample evidence that they're working very hard for us. Trying to make an issue out of this just demonstrates the extent to which some will go to keep the last few strands of hope alive.Apologies, I could have worded that slightly better. I was referring to hope of impending riches, as I alluded to earlier in my previous post. I do not think we are completely without hope of getting any money back. I'm hoping to get at least part of my investment back, thanks to the efforts of Kevin and Bill. Perhaps in time we may even get our entire investment back and then some, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If we do it's likely to be several years away. I ask again, where has it been OFFICIALLY stated that I've lost my investment? What exactly do you want by way of an OFFICIAL statement? Current management have repeatedly stated that the money is gone, that there are no trust funds etc waiting for us. Even Maheu repeatedly stated through press releases and updates not to believe the rumors of payouts. And now the SEC are OFFICIALLY going after Urban and other former insiders for fraud. Think for a minute. What's more credible? The combined testimony of Maheu, the SEC and current management, plus the cold hard facts that have come to light regarding the way Urban and others squandered our money? Or rumors from the likes of Acca and other gurus, who have been proven to be wrong time and time again? I notice you didn't answer *my* question, so I'll ask again: What would it take to convince you that we've been scammed? |
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Post by veritasvincit on Apr 11, 2008 16:10:30 GMT -6
What would it take to convince you that we've been scammed? For ALL the court cases, investigation, stings (imaginary or not), to come to conclusion. Urban and everyone else involved with this stock put in jail, no money found, the SEC, DOJ, FBI and any other Federal body to tell me that I've lost 100% of my investment. Then, and only then, will I concede that all this crap posted on non-compliant 'website' faqs, SEC civil court filings, internet chat rooms, and forum message boards are the "cold hard facts". I don't understand why everyone has to bring up Acca and Jay when posting things about how we have all lost in this 'scam'? Tell me, why bring up Acca? Did I say anything about Acca? I've never mentioned believing that guy... but you know what's funny, he did actually say the whole world would know about CMKX this month, and wouldn't you know it, CMKX is being written up all over the place. Eh, maybe he finally got lucky, maybe not? I don't know for sure, do you? As far as "current management" is concerned, they have elected to side themselves with those that have trashed the shareholders of this company since day one, DAY ONE, those people have done nothing but belittle and torment many good folks. For what? To prove that Urban scammed them? To show how smart they are, and how stupid the other 40,000 + shareholders have been? Does that make sense to you? Why would so many people spend 4+ years on internet message boards and chat rooms doing nothing, absolutely nothing but trying to convince 40000 people they've been scammed? What really does that accomplish? Kevin and Bill have proven NOTHING to me. You, or anyone else, trying to tell me that I'm crazy for thinking this way is not going to sway my opinion of the matter. This thing is far from over, IMO. I do not pin all my hope on Kevin and Bill, that is my right. On the other hand, I don't go around telling people NOT to pin all their hopes on Kevin and Bill, to each his/her own. Why do you feel the need to have to tell me what I or anyone else should believe? Because Kevin and Bill say so? The fat lady HAS NOT sung. The sky is not falling, as always with CMKX, we wait. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2008 9:38:27 GMT -6
MY SUMMATION OF THIS BILL & KEVIN STORY IS THAT , , I DONT THINK THEY WERE REALLY ANTI CMKM , ....I BELIEVE,.... THERE WAS SOME HOW A PURPOSE, BEHIND THERE APPOINTMENTS , ....LETS NOT FORGET THAT BILL FRIZZELLE DID AS I RECALL,... SOME TIME BACK IN LAS VEGAS, DID SIT IN ON A ROUND TABLE DISSCUSION, WITH THE PRINCABLES OF THE CO. , AND IMO. THEY DIDNT DISSCUSS WHAT WAS ON THE MENUES FOR THE DAY. . I THINK THESE TWO B. K. HAD A PURPOSE ..... MAYBE SOMETIME DOWN THE ROAD WE WILL KNOW , WHAT MATTERS NOW IS NOT THE TIME,....TO TRY AND ASSUME WHAT THERE REASONS FOR BEING APPOINTED ,.. IS SILLY,.... BECAUSE NONE OF US ARE AWARE, OR KNOW THE FACTS ,.... LETS HAVE CLOSURE,... AND THEN MAYBE WE WILL BE GIVEN SOME ANSWERS , I HAVE KNOW IDEA IF THEY WERE PRO. OR CON,....LETS WAIT AND SEE ,.. GOD BLESS ALL CMKM'S BONAFIDES ,AND MGNT , ,.....TWT.
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Post by logictx on Apr 12, 2008 18:22:23 GMT -6
Great answer Double-V !!! As for you, TWT, OK, I will wait. You guys are fantastic! Calmer heads rule, even if I do lose mine every-so-often.
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Post by SkipperGas on Apr 14, 2008 6:09:53 GMT -6
It saddens me that certain individuals on this board take great delight in ridiculing Kevin at every opportunity. Its almost as if Kevin and Bill are considered to be the ones who have wronged us, rather than Urban and his cronies. Or do you still believe that in spite of all the evidence, that Urban is one of the good guys, and Kevin and Bill are just getting in the way of us getting paid?? Kevin deserves our respect and thanks, not ridicule. He and Bill are working their butts off for us. I know there are plenty of unanswered questions, but to continue to believe the lies of Acca, Jay Adobe, et al is just living in denial, plain and simple. It's natural to want to vent anger and frustration, but the target of our anger should be Urban, Edwards, etc, not Kevin and Bill. For those that still believe in Urban, what would it take to convince you that he and Edwards scammed us? |
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Post by portrush on Apr 14, 2008 9:27:39 GMT -6
What exactly do you want by way of an OFFICIAL statement? Current management have repeatedly stated that the money is gone, that there are no trust funds etc waiting for us. Even Maheu repeatedly stated through press releases and updates not to believe the rumors of payouts. And now the SEC are OFFICIALLY going after Urban and other former insiders for fraud. Having read this thread I think both "sides" of the opinion expressed present validity. It is the consistent contradiction from Tyler that I find disappointing and perhaps is confusing to shareholders. Do I fault them? Not entirely. I think they've been hired to do a job and they are doing as instructed. My theory won't be proven until this is over, if then. To your point specifically (above)--more contradiction from Tyler. Yes, they have repeatedly said that there are no funds set aside for shareholders. They have also repeatedly said they would not issue a letter declaring the stock worthless so that the shareholders can legally deduct the "bad" investment from their tax returns. If there are no assets and the stock is not worthless... Get my point? Contradiction. Not necessarily the best strategy for building shareholder confidence if you ask me. pr  |
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Post by Twist Capper on Apr 14, 2008 11:06:59 GMT -6
Hi port. True there is contradiction....... Regardless, if Tyler is working for the shareholders ......WE WIN. If Tyler is just part of the "plam"......WE WIN. Does that mean we win either way? Remains to be seen........ TC |
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Post by smeagol8 on Apr 14, 2008 19:30:03 GMT -6
Everything that Tyler has put out is riddled with half-truths, and anything that would be 'definative' is always not answered or "we cannot divulge information that blah blah blah". Furthermore, they go out of their way to slam Urban at every opportunity - which would be fine on PB66, but in official company communications is HORRIBLY unprofessional. One would think that Tyler's whole purpose in existance is to point the finger at Urban.......which I think it is.
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i was just posting the exact same thing 
