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Post by senna on Feb 15, 2006 15:18:46 GMT -6
This was just on drudgereport.com, the secret 12 hours of Saddam talking about using WMD on Washington, DC, hiding them. It is amazing they put Cheney in with Saddam but I don't remember Cheney killing millions and gassing thousands but that is the media in America they believe they are part of the Gov and speak for the American people "They speak for no one I know"
I bring this story over because let's just find them and hope they are not in the hands of the terrorists that is the main objective. I know many will dismiss this becaue they hate Bush so bad they want us to lose, they want us to fail and they want us to hated by Muslims.
Let's see what the tapes say first and hope we can locate them before UBL can launch one in the USA.
--------------------------------------------------------------------- Intelligence Summit to Air 'Saddam's WMD Tapes' By Monisha Bansal CNSNews.com Staff Writer February 15, 2006
See Related Story: Secret Saddam WMD Tapes Subject of ABC Nightline Special
(CNSNews.com) - Reportedly armed with 12 hours of Saddam Hussein's audio recordings, the organizers of an upcoming "Intelligence Summit" are describing the tapes as the "smoking gun evidence" that the Iraqi dictator possessed weapons of mass destruction in the period leading up to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.
The U.S. House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, which according to the New York Sun has already authenticated the Saddam tapes, has reopened its investigation into the possible existence and location of the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction (WMD). But some long-time liberal skeptics are showing no inclination to change their minds.
In the months leading up to the invasion of Iraq on March 19, 2003, the Bush administration argued that the war was necessary as a preemptive strike because the Iraqi president had WMD and there was a danger that he would use them against the United States.
On Oct. 6, 2004, Charles Duelfer, advisor to the director of Central Intelligence on Iraqi weapons, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that Saddam did not have WMD at the time of the invasion and that the weapons were likely destroyed following the first Persian Gulf War in 1991. On Jan. 12, 2005, the U.S. announced that is was stopping its search for the weapons in Iraq.
But a four-day Intelligence Summit, to be held Feb. 17-20 in Arlington, Va., is re-igniting the debate over the Iraqi WMD. The featured discussion, on Saturday, Feb. 18, is titled: "Saddam's WMD Tapes: 'The Smoking Gun' Evidence." The agenda for the event indicates that the person who will speak about the tapes is at this point "anonymous."
The New York Sun on Feb. 7 reported that Rep. Peter Hoekstra's (R-Mich.) committee had obtained the audio tapes from former federal prosecutor John Loftus. According to the report, Loftus received the tapes "from a former American military intelligence analyst." Loftus is president of the Intelligence Summit, which is a yearly gathering of experts in the fields of counter-terrorism and intelligence gathering.
Jodie Evans of the anti-war group Code Pink, however, told Cybercast News Service that she does not think the Saddam recordings will lead to any new information. The government, according to Evans, has "said a lot of things for a long time."
"There's a difference between what they've been saying and what's real, and when they find something real, I'll comment."
Danny Schechter, author and producer of the film version of "Embedded: Weapons of Mass Deception," said he is "weary of these intercepts."
"Nobody denies that Saddam Hussein did have a WMD program. The United States knows that, we have the receipts, we supplied some of the initial technology," Schechter said.
But the weapons were destroyed in 1991, after the first Gulf War, he asserted.
"The question is not, did he have a program, but did that program represent a threat to the United States, to England, or to anywhere else," Schechter said. "I would be hesitant about raw intelligence that has not been analyzed, but that is being used in a partisan way by members of Congress," he told Cybercast News Service.
"Saddam Hussein is probably one of the most demonized world leaders, with Dick Cheney a close second," Schechter added.
Saddam is currently on trial in Iraq for ordering the killings of more than 140 Shiite Muslims in 1982. One of his former military advisors and top generals, Georges Sada, has written a book titled: "Saddam's Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied and Survived Saddam Hussein."
Sada, who is a national security adviser in Iraq's new government, alleges that in June 2002 Saddam transported weapons of mass destruction out of Iraq and into Syria aboard several refitted commercial jets, under the pretense of conducting a humanitarian mission for flood victims.
A Feb. 2 Cybercast News Service article quoted Jamal Ware, the communications director for Rep. Hoekstra as saying that "the chairman has read General Sada's book ... He will meet with General Sada to hear first-hand him laying out the case that this transferal may have happened." The New York Sun article from Feb. 7 indicated that Sada has since met with Hoekstra to talk about the issue.
Also See: Secret Saddam WMD Tapes Subject of ABC Nightline Special
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Post by nobleforce on Feb 15, 2006 15:25:03 GMT -6
We knew this all along (those who DIDN'T want to hate the Prez, anyway). Hussein's second in command admitted a couple weeks ago about WMD's. Watch the liberals try to weasel out of this one and blame the Prez somehow. I'll be interested to see if Kerry RE-takes his position of "There are WMD's in Iraq".
Ahhmm, whatever. We know we've been right, right? Senna?
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Post by squeezebox on Feb 15, 2006 15:33:23 GMT -6
imagine that, wmd's. he had and used them before, why wouldnt he have them now? anyone who thinks the guy doesnt support terrorism is just nieve, plain and simple. its a brutal world out there and we HAD to do something about it. i hope to god they dont have any of them here!
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Post by gusjarvis on Feb 15, 2006 15:36:49 GMT -6
good timing to bgring out good news to balance this scandal that is about to come out, hmmm.
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Post by senna on Feb 15, 2006 15:44:46 GMT -6
We have been right and the troops know it too, why do you think they always say in interviews we are doing the right thing. To me the left can hate all they want it does the USA no good at all let's find the WMD and rid the area of them. It amazes me that they say Cheney is the second most demoized despot in the world when we have "Crazy Al Gore" being paid by the Bin Laden family to give a speech in Saudi and say how we have mistreated the Saudi's so badly? He is trying to cause riots.
A former VP that has lied so many times from the Budda to the the trust fund he gets all his money from which is all in Atlantic Richfield stock but he hates oil companies except when his divy check comes in. If any other Republican did what he did they would be brought up on treason charges and Gore to me he is a traitor.
The double standard here is so incredible...Clinton has sex in the Oval office that is a private matter and Cheney hunts and that is not. I am sorry that the man was hit by buckshot but to have him resign when Clinton did nothing after the WTC bombing bcause he was to busy chasing Monica for sex.
Then there are the 38,000 troops in Kosovo they have been there 8 years and they are not asked to come home.
Doesn't matter because the dems are unfit to govern or defend America, they are so hateful that it is giving our enemies ways to hurt us and when that happens it will be Bush fault. CMKX is Bush's fault too...he allowed people from 66 countries to buy shares...that is how clouded the judgement of the dems are, they want back any power possible.
It is good to know Clinton has his law license back after lying to a grand jury...do you know what would happen if anyone of us lied to a grand jury? Automatic jail...but for Willy nothing because it was a personal matter except it was happening in the most coveted office in the world the Oval office...Clinton used it like a bar room lap dance VIP room. Just my opinions because we all have them and we are all entitled to them. senna
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Post by squeezebox on Feb 15, 2006 15:49:42 GMT -6
We have been right and the troops know it too, why do you think they always say in interviews we are doing the right thing. To me the left can hate all they want it does the USA no good at all let's find the WMD and rid the area of them. It amazes me that they say Cheney is the second most demoized despot in the world when we have "Crazy Al Gore" being paid by the Bin Laden family to give a speech in Saudi and say how we have mistreated the Saudi's so badly? He is trying to cause riots. A former VP that has lied so many times from the Budda to the the trust fund he gets all his money from which is all in Atlantic Richfield stock but he hates oil companies except when his divy check comes in. If any other Republican did what he did they would be brought up on treason charges and Gore to me he is a traitor. The double standard here is so incredible...Clinton has sex in the Oval office that is a private matter and Cheney hunts and that is not. I am sorry that the man was hit by buckshot but to have him resign when Clinton did nothing after the WTC bombing bcause he was to busy chasing Monica for sex. Then there are the 38,000 troops in Kosovo they have been there 8 years and they are not asked to come home. Doesn't matter because the dems are unfit to govern or defend America, they are so hateful that it is giving our enemies ways to hurt us and when that happens it will be Bush fault. CMKX is Bush's fault too...he allowed people from 66 countries to buy shares...that is how clouded the judgement of the dems are, they want back any power possible. It is good to know Clinton has his law license back after lying to a grand jury...do you know what would happen if anyone of us lied to a grand jury? Automatic jail...but for Willy nothing because it was a personal matter except it was happening in the most coveted office in the world the Oval office...Clinton used it like a bar room lap dance VIP room. Just my opinions because we all have them and we are all entitled to them. senna awsome senna! i knew i liked you for something.
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Post by j on Feb 15, 2006 15:53:24 GMT -6
JMO
This is just being put out to get us ready mentally to bomb Iran, and Syria.
...it'll happen by the end of March at the latest.
JMO
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Post by firefighter1118 on Feb 15, 2006 15:54:42 GMT -6
JMO This is just being put out to get us ready mentally to bomb Iran, and Syria. ...it'll happen by the end of March at the latest. JMO
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Post by j on Feb 15, 2006 15:55:00 GMT -6
... also JMO All of the politicians are liars. Left, Right, and Center. This guy should be president: www.kinkyfriedman.com/
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Post by j on Feb 15, 2006 15:55:18 GMT -6
JMO This is just being put out to get us ready mentally to bomb Iran, and Syria. ...it'll happen by the end of March at the latest. JMO You watch..
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Post by senna on Feb 15, 2006 16:02:08 GMT -6
Anyone want a nuked up Iran? These people would kill anyone of us in a heartbeat, so what do we do send in Al Gore the egos of the dems thinking they can reason with the unreasonable is a dangerous position.
Just ask France, Saudi, England and all the people that had their heads hacked off while still being alive...Yea this is isn't important JMHO senna
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Post by j on Feb 15, 2006 16:03:28 GMT -6
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Post by squeezebox on Feb 15, 2006 16:05:35 GMT -6
Anyone want a nuked up Iran? These people would kill anyone of us in a heartbeat, so what do we do send in Al Gore the egos of the dems thinking they can reason with the unreasonable is a dangerous position. Just ask France, Saudi, England and all the people that had their heads hacked off while still being alive...Yea this is isn't important JMHO senna senna, i think that sending in al gore, the clintons and john kerry would be an excellent idea. maybe then, once they are threatend, raped, and tortured they can come back and teach their worshipers that this is no joke. or maybe it would be better if they just stayed over there.
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Post by j on Feb 15, 2006 16:07:39 GMT -6
Anyone want a nuked up Iran? These people would kill anyone of us in a heartbeat, so what do we do send in Al Gore the egos of the dems thinking they can reason with the unreasonable is a dangerous position. Just ask France, Saudi, England and all the people that had their heads hacked off while still being alive...Yea this is isn't important JMHO senna Iran is going to get nuked up.... by the U.S. Low yield nukes are headed their way!... JMO One thing that I've learned to the core of my spine from the CMKX experience... officials lie as often as they breathe... just ask Annette Nazareth, or Larry Thompson!
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Post by j on Feb 15, 2006 16:26:42 GMT -6
Batman is set to kick Al Qaeda's AZZ!!! sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/15/DDGPMH7Q161.DTLWho needs comic-book villains when real ones lurk? Not Batman. Peter Hartlaub, Chronicle Pop Culture Critic Wednesday, February 15, 2006 Batman vs. al Qaeda After more than six decades fighting the Joker and Two Face, Batman is getting ready to take on perhaps his most complicated foe yet: terrorism. Frank Miller, who changed the way people looked at comics with his noirish 1980s Batman graphic novel "The Dark Knight Returns" and his "Sin City" series, says he's started work on a book where the caped crusader will "kick a lot of al Qaeda butt." "Not to put too fine a point on it -- it's a piece of propaganda," Miller told a group of about a thousand fans this weekend at the WonderCon comic book convention in San Francisco. "Batman kicks al Qaeda's ass." Miller says the book will be called "Holy Terror, Batman." While there's no telling when it will be released -- Miller is known for taking his sweet time with his best projects, and he's in the middle of a different Batman series -- it's clear that the writer and artist is passionate about tackling the subject. "I wish the entertainers of our time had the spine and the focus of the ones who faced down Hitler," Miller said. "I just think it's silly to have Batman out chasing the Riddler when you've got al Qaeda out there." Miller's new twist in the Batman canon may revive the sentiment that surrounded Captain America during World War II. In the very first issue of that Marvel comic, published just months before the attack on Pearl Harbor, Captain America is pictured on the cover punching out Adolf Hitler with a vicious right cross. Other comic characters have fought in subsequent wars, including Sgt. Fury and his Howling Commandos, whose adventures included stints in Vietnam. But having the most popular comic book characters taking on real-life enemies of the state seems to be more of a rarity today. Captain America fought a terrorist group clearly modeled after al Qaeda a few years back. Joe Field, owner of Flying Colors Comics in Concord, said that after a few popular issues, interest waned. "In all honesty, from what I've seen, when superhero comics try to get too close to what's going on in the real world, they fail," Field said. "If it's too close to what reality is, generally the readers back off from it." The X factor here is Miller, who has arguably done for comics what Marlon Brando did for moviemaking. Miller is one of the most popular comic book writer/artists in history, and his darker take on characters has been much copied, while helping legitimize comic books as an art form and revive their popularity. And at 49, Miller is perhaps at the peak of his career, coming off the success of the "Sin City" movie last year, which he co-directed. The past few Batman books by Miller have been best-sellers. "No matter what he does, it's interesting," Field said. "Even if it's a train wreck, people will check it out." Miller, who doesn't often speak publicly, on Sunday offered the crowd of fans limited details. He said Batman's home of Gotham City will be under attack. Miller also compared his Batman-versus-al Qaeda book to the phenomenon of the 1971 movie "Dirty Harry" -- Miller says Clint Eastwood's Harry Callahan character was an urban hero who popped up in response to a real-life urban crime wave. Miller said he has inked 120 pages out of a 200-page book -- but there's no telling when he might complete it. The artist is also working on other projects, including another "Sin City" movie and the "All-Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder" series, which is written by Miller and illustrated by Jim Lee. (Years ago, he started talking about a comic book version of the life of Jesus.) Miller said he would have editorial control over the Batman series. A spokesman for DC Comics, which publishes Batman, declined to comment on "Holy Terror, Batman." Whenever the comic appears, it will probably be controversial, but it's questionable how much it will change the way people look at comic books or the fight against terrorism. "It won't do much to stop terrorism," said Larry Gonick, a San Francisco cartoonist who has written more than a dozen comics that explain history and science. "Given Miller's propensity for portraying sadism as reasonable, it may reinforce the readers' approval of, or even enthusiasm for, torture. Like the TV show '24.' Or 'Sin City.' " Gonick, who wrote an Islamic section in his "Cartoon History of the Universe" and says the response was overwhelmingly positive, wondered how Miller will handle his al Qaeda villains. "A standard-issue treatment would show them as another crew of generic swarthy bad guys, and there will, of course, have to be a 'good Arab' or two to prove the comic isn't prejudiced. I'm guessing an Iraqi commando on our side," Gonick said. "But if Miller gives them the real characteristics of al Qaeda -- that is, really depicts the details of their religiosity -- he could get into trouble." One thing is clear -- Miller doesn't plan to pull any more punches than Captain America did with Hitler. When it comes to heroes fighting during wartime, he said, "that's what they're there for." E-mail Peter Hartlaub at phartlaub@sfchronicle.com.
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Post by blue32 on Feb 15, 2006 16:29:50 GMT -6
We have been right and the troops know it too, why do you think they always say in interviews we are doing the right thing. To me the left can hate all they want it does the USA no good at all let's find the WMD and rid the area of them. It amazes me that they say Cheney is the second most demoized despot in the world when we have "Crazy Al Gore" being paid by the Bin Laden family to give a speech in Saudi and say how we have mistreated the Saudi's so badly? He is trying to cause riots. A former VP that has lied so many times from the Budda to the the trust fund he gets all his money from which is all in Atlantic Richfield stock but he hates oil companies except when his divy check comes in. If any other Republican did what he did they would be brought up on treason charges and Gore to me he is a traitor. The double standard here is so incredible...Clinton has sex in the Oval office that is a private matter and Cheney hunts and that is not. I am sorry that the man was hit by buckshot but to have him resign when Clinton did nothing after the WTC bombing bcause he was to busy chasing Monica for sex. Then there are the 38,000 troops in Kosovo they have been there 8 years and they are not asked to come home. Doesn't matter because the dems are unfit to govern or defend America, they are so hateful that it is giving our enemies ways to hurt us and when that happens it will be Bush fault. CMKX is Bush's fault too...he allowed people from 66 countries to buy shares...that is how clouded the judgement of the dems are, they want back any power possible. It is good to know Clinton has his law license back after lying to a grand jury...do you know what would happen if anyone of us lied to a grand jury? Automatic jail...but for Willy nothing because it was a personal matter except it was happening in the most coveted office in the world the Oval office...Clinton used it like a bar room lap dance VIP room. Just my opinions because we all have them and we are all entitled to them. senna Wow... common sense abounds here. There is corruption on both sides of the alse, I am sure everyone would agree to that, however, there are some at the top that covet power so much, they are willing to sacrifice my life and yours to get it back. It is disgusting. blue
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Post by cerp66 on Feb 15, 2006 16:43:44 GMT -6
We knew this all along (those who DIDN'T want to hate the Prez, anyway). Hussein's second in command admitted a couple weeks ago about WMD's. Watch the liberals try to weasel out of this one and blame the Prez somehow. I'll be interested to see if Kerry RE-takes his position of "There are WMD's in Iraq". Ahhmm, whatever. We know we've been right, right? Senna? Hey Hey, nice to see some unclouded minds on this board.
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Post by nancyhfrga on Feb 15, 2006 16:48:00 GMT -6
We knew this all along (those who DIDN'T want to hate the Prez, anyway). Hussein's second in command admitted a couple weeks ago about WMD's. Watch the liberals try to weasel out of this one and blame the Prez somehow. I'll be interested to see if Kerry RE-takes his position of "There are WMD's in Iraq". Ahhmm, whatever. We know we've been right, right? Senna? I heard that interview on the radio given by Hussein's second in command. Scary stuff. The tv or news did not cover the story as it was offered up in person on the radio by the general himself, in his own words.
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Post by nobleforce on Feb 15, 2006 22:28:53 GMT -6
We knew this all along (those who DIDN'T want to hate the Prez, anyway). Hussein's second in command admitted a couple weeks ago about WMD's. Watch the liberals try to weasel out of this one and blame the Prez somehow. I'll be interested to see if Kerry RE-takes his position of "There are WMD's in Iraq". Ahhmm, whatever. We know we've been right, right? Senna? I heard that interview on the radio given by Hussein's second in command. Scary stuff. The tv or news did not cover the story as it was offered up in person on the radio by the general himself, in his own words. Nancy, he did, in fact, go on TV. He was on Fox with Hannity. Of course CNN didn't have him on...what then would they have to fill a day if they had someone on admitting the Prez was correct?
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