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Post by energy1232 on Apr 18, 2007 14:37:44 GMT -6
yes, and pumpers can be just as bad as bashers though and do just as much harm. Agree ... calling out people like Jay who kept people hanging in is not a good sign IMO. Why bother if a bombshell PR is coming out in a few days? If all is well, who cares about a few posters? And why does he not go after the frigging bashers or even mention them? Bashers can work in a positive way or a negitive way imo... |
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Post by lana41092 on Apr 18, 2007 14:43:14 GMT -6
Sir Charles - You are right. But, I think we (KW and BF) are a little wiser. I think that there were many behind the CMKX scam, and once they prove this and get the illegal shares cancelled, and find our assets, the mm's will be hard pressed to begin their shenanigans again. I think I see what they are doing, but there is no guarantee it will go as planned. I just plan to give them all my confidence and support. After all, we now know that everything we speculated on before is not true. There is no money, no dhl truck, no money being transferred from country to country, no sting, no conglomerate. My only hope is that we don't find out that UC was a part of the scam. That would break my confidence in people forever. We don't know how UC fits into all of what is happening...just yet anyway. Lana I think BF and KW have a plan to get us trading again. And, there is one thing certain. We do have a tremendous short that will have to be covered. Combine that with cancellation of illegal shares that were introduced into the market and reclamation of assets that were lost and you just might see a couple of cents per share for your pain. At least that's what I think is happening. Good thing is we will know for sure in the next PR because Kevin seems determined to open up the floodgates when it comes to communcation. Lana If his is the case we are in deep doodoo ... what is keeping the MM's from continuing what they have been doing for years? A sting or at least some goverment related action whould stop those **** now we are sitting ducks ... again ... |
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Post by wasolavich on Apr 18, 2007 14:50:05 GMT -6
CEO Updates To all CMKM shareholders:- 4-18-07 Update #2 It has come to my attention that the Abadgoodgirls, Jay Adobes and Acca Dacca’s of this world are spinning my updates as they have done with every update or press release of the past. Your NEW management is going to start treating this company like a real company. The things these individuals are saying are false. There is no delivery coming to your house  after the PR on Friday. Please do not listen to rumors of fortunes waiting just around the corner nor rumors of large trust accounts that have been set up with money or other assets to be delivered to shareholders. These rumors are simply not true. The former Chairman stepping down last month has absolutely nothing to do with a plan. There is no secret sting in place, compartmentalized management or any other such secret operation. This is a very critical time, and if we don’t correct the problems from the past, we will further delay our move into the future. These posters and others like them are part of the problems from the past. Apparently, giving frequent and factual information has not stopped these individuals from preying on innocent shareholders. It breaks my heart every time I hear of one of these posters stirring up the shareholder base with the excitement of a looming payout. Please understand that these posters are only feeding on your emotions and I cannot allow it to continue. I am currently in discussion with our legal counsel about our legal options against people that post blatantly false information pertaining to our Company. We are in a rebuilding stage and everything will become more evident after this next press release. Thank you for your continued support, Kevin West CEO The New CMKM Well I guess we now can call this a Rumour Friday again ;D |
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Post by veritasvincit on Apr 18, 2007 14:53:11 GMT -6
The "it" I was referring to is our situation. I still want to know where the "goods" went and to whom and for how much? I still want to know the share structure? There are alot of questions we will never know the answer to. Debra How do you know the 'goods' have gone anywhere? Do you have proof they're gone? Why is KW trying to get this company back trading? Why would he spend the time and effort if CMKM is holding nothing? Give him time, perhaps we WILL know the share structure. KW has only been at the helm, for what, a month? Give the guy a break, it's not his fault the mess this company seems to be in. Perhaps there are a lot of questions we WILL finally know the answers to. Maybe even the ones you think will never be answered... I'm not going to sit here and debate this with you. You obviously feel your investment is gone, or in serious jeopardy. I on the other hand, like what I'm seeing. I spent way too much time debating this and that in regards to CMKX 3 years ago... Best of luck to you. Still holding strong! V.V. |
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Post by tonypro on Apr 18, 2007 15:03:48 GMT -6
In the infamous words from Scooby...
......RHUT--RHO
Tony P.
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Post by Twist Capper on Apr 18, 2007 15:07:36 GMT -6
In the infamous words from Scooby... ......RHUT--RHO Tony P. Hmmmm........funny, Frizzel already came out and said nothing can be done...... www.cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=taskforce&action=display&thread=1161818627The reasons for this long period of no information are unknown to me. If you want to speculate that there is a problem getting some settlement deal worked out, feel free to think that way. I am aware of no facts that will support such a thought process. I hope for all the shareholders (myself included) that there is something going on that is beneficial to us. It is simply an outright lie for someone to state that I have been personally involved in such negotiations, when I have not be so involved. Unfortunately, these type of rumors sometimes cause people to make buying or selling decisions even though this stock is not a publicly traded stock. I have received several well intentioned emails from shareholders suggesting that I or the company should take some legal action and direct that cease and desist orders be put in place to stop such nonsense. I do not represent the company nor can I speak for their intentions in this regard. I know of no lawsuit nor legal action that can be taken which would cause a Judge somewhere to order that the general public should stop posting lies or unfounded rumors on message boards. I am not trying to be facetious or sarcastic in saying this. There is simply no legal process that I am aware of which can be invoked to stop this nonsense. |
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Post by saturn on Apr 18, 2007 15:10:38 GMT -6
Someone email Jay and let him know the plane is ready to take him back to where he came from. Kevin has just bought him a one way ticket home.
Saturn
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Post by shoelessjoe on Apr 18, 2007 15:13:55 GMT -6
In the infamous words from Scooby... ......RHUT--RHO Tony P. IN THE INFAMOUS WORDS OF WINNIE THE pOOH "OH BROTHER" |
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Post by dg2001 on Apr 18, 2007 15:47:53 GMT -6
the company could have issued an opinion re: bashers and pumpers a long time ago without tipping their hand.
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Post by oletimonesock on Apr 18, 2007 15:53:40 GMT -6
:veryhappy: cmkxgroup.proboards88.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=my69z..An '05 CMKX/CIM E-mail From Kevin.. By: my69z 28 Jul 2005, 08:35 PM EDT Msg. 243069 of 339445 Jump to msg. # An E-mail from Kevin777 on CIM...... Got this a few days ago and wasn't going to post it because i've never been a "got an e-mail" poster.But changed my mind with all the negative stuff goin around lately. It's just a theory,,,but one that has alot of the pieces seeming to fit.....of course you'd have to play with the relevant numbers. _________________________________________________________ From: "Kevin M. West" [Save Address] [Block Sender] [This Is Spam] To: "'chris campbell'" CC: Subject: RE: Hey Kev... Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:27:53 -0500 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Show Full Headers As AttachmentInline Text Previous | Next Hey Chris, Try this with the CIM part of your theory. SB-2 filing to become a public company use the same means as an IPO but on a smaller, faster and much easier scale. The SB-2 requires 2 years of audited financials. There are actually two audits required... one to start the process and a POST-offering audit. Timeframes for Paperwork back and forth in between time is around 10-12 weeks. After completed, you get a transfer agent, market maker and file with the NASD. Second audit takes place Registration with the SEC happens and then you are a fully reporting company! Now then, the first PR on CIM being spun off was 3-10-2003!!!! Look it up.We have now gained 4 months beyond the 2 years needed for audited financials for CIM to become a fully reporting public company!!! Have fun, my friend! Feel free to use this Chris.... I believe it is what is going on Kevin M. West www.AmericaNeedsToKnow.comSECOND E-MAIL.....(his response to mine about CIM's structure and NASDAQ) From: "Kevin M. West" [Save Address] [Block Sender] [This Is Spam] To: "'chris campbell'" CC: Subject: RE: Hey Kev... Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:38:15 -0500 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Show Full Headers As AttachmentInline Text Previous | Next Heyyy Chris, Two things here... First, we don't know the float of CMKX. Could it be almost nothing and everything is NSS? Second.... But, let's take very worst case on this..... 800 billion shares.Increase CIM to 820 billion a/s and do a 1 for 1 share swap. Drop the filings and valuations of over 1 trillion (I really believe) and make the market go nuts because of the NSS. Wait for it all to settle down and then do a r/s and bring share structure into line along with raising price way up. I think CMKX will be a dividend machine that we will keep and spin out other divys from with all of them giving CMKX a lifetime cash dividend of profits along with a share swap like our PR from ages ago says. These are only thoughts Chris, no special info from anyone on it..... so feel free to do or say whatever you like with them. Have a good day, my friend Kevin ____________________________________________________- My thoughts,,,,,,,not Kevins.... * Urbans T/A from last year....Desert Stock * Mr.Forman...who Frizzell hired...is a founder of the NASD Broker/Dealers Gltua, Chris Relavence Golden? This email exchange hapend a LONG TIME ago before Kevin the CEO. I would imagine that Kevin has become more informed since he has taken his new position. |
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Post by hermannmaier0 on Apr 18, 2007 15:53:52 GMT -6
the company could have issued an opinion re: bashers and pumpers a long time ago without tipping their hand. FWIW, I believe they clearly stated not to believe the message boards 2 or 3 times. |
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Post by smeagol8 on Apr 18, 2007 16:22:14 GMT -6
Why now? We have been subject to guru's and bashers for many years by now ... the company nor Frizzell ever really acted upon an now we get a second ... apparently ad-hoc update against people like Jay threatening with legal action?? This is giving all bashers a new truckload of ammo to go after anyone with a positive message ... why does he not refer to bashers like Jonas??? Why not go after them? They have been spreading a worse message and said more damaging things about the company and UC IMO . . I think KW's list of people simply shows which message board he reads. People like Jonas aren't allowed on the more respectable boards. |
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Post by maboa64 on Apr 18, 2007 16:33:11 GMT -6
I just have one question:
are KW and BF receiving a salary (if so is cmkm generating money somehow) or are they doing this for free in the hope to recover some or all original investment. How is the CPA going to get paid if anyone would even dare touch it without guarantees of payment. So many people involved in the past 3 years or so, just trying to figure out the real motives because if CMKM was a POS why work 6 days a week and long hours for nothing, I am sure KW and BF could use their time a lot better.
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Post by garyware66 on Apr 18, 2007 17:00:52 GMT -6
They say they want to get us trading again.
I understand many of the brokerage houses said they would not take our certs back.
How are we suppose to trade with no one willing to accept our certs back ?
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Post by wwjdthrume on Apr 18, 2007 17:39:57 GMT -6
I find it unreal that Abadgoodgirl is lumped into the same category as Acca or Jay Adobe.
I also find it hard to believe that money did not exchange hands for those certs.
I suppose it's possible that money did exchange hands for our certs and it went to fund mining or legal expenses designed to seperate the company assets from the bad guys. I suppose it's possible that the company assets are now owned by the bad boys and we will get a story spun to us along with a minute portion of what was in the original claims. Transparency would be more than welcome.
Unfortunately in my heart of hearts I think the bad guys includes many in our government. I hope this new CMKM gives full disclosure to the shareholders of every transaction they are aware of. I hope they put every single person who was in a position of authority under oath and asks them pointed questions designed to reveal the truth.
The rumors of cash were passed onto shareholders by people in a position to know if their info was true or false from their jobs in banking and brokerage firms according to what I heard. It is entirely possible those banks and/or brokers had short positions and lied to lull us into complete complacency. It worked quite well. I remember shareholders getting mad that someone would upset the apple cart and screw up a settlement coming to them. I wish we upset the apple cart two years ago. It is outrageous to leave shareholders in the dark for two years and even this PR is only shedding partial light.
It disgusts me that the people who bought their shares with their hard earned cash have had to hang onto any bit of info they can glean from anyone. I don't blame Kevin for this - it appears that he was gagged from talking to us. BUT who gagged him and why? It still doesn't add up right. No wonder there have been persistent rumors. The facts as we know them do not add up still. At least not from my perspective.
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Post by meffoos on Apr 18, 2007 17:46:23 GMT -6
I just have one question: are KW and BF receiving a salary (if so is cmkm generating money somehow) or are they doing this for free in the hope to recover some or all original investment. How is the CPA going to get paid if anyone would even dare touch it without guarantees of payment. So many people involved in the past 3 years or so, just trying to figure out the real motives because if CMKM was a POS why work 6 days a week and long hours for nothing, I am sure KW and BF could use their time a lot better. Thx Marco That is exactly what am saying too!!! This is a valid point! meffoos |
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Post by evenup on Apr 18, 2007 18:43:10 GMT -6
I find it unreal that Abadgoodgirl is lumped into the same category as Acca or Jay Adobe. I also find it hard to believe that money did not exchange hands for those certs. I suppose it's possible that money did exchange hands for our certs and it went to fund mining or legal expenses designed to seperate the company assets from the bad guys. I suppose it's possible that the company assets are now owned by the bad boys and we will get a story spun to us along with a minute portion of what was in the original claims. Transparency would be more than welcome. Unfortunately in my heart of hearts I think the bad guys includes many in our government. I hope this new CMKM gives full disclosure to the shareholders of every transaction they are aware of. I hope they put every single person who was in a position of authority under oath and asks them pointed questions designed to reveal the truth. The rumors of cash were passed onto shareholders by people in a position to know if their info was true or false from their jobs in banking and brokerage firms according to what I heard. It is entirely possible those banks and/or brokers had short positions and lied to lull us into complete complacency. It worked quite well. I remember shareholders getting mad that someone would upset the apple cart and screw up a settlement coming to them. I wish we upset the apple cart two years ago. It is outrageous to leave shareholders in the dark for two years and even this PR is only shedding partial light. It disgusts me that the people who bought their shares with their hard earned cash have had to hang onto any bit of info they can glean from anyone. [glow=red,2,300]I don't blame Kevin for this - it appears that he was gagged from talking to us.[/glow] BUT who gagged him and why? It still doesn't add up right. No wonder there have been persistent rumors. The facts as we know them do not add up still. At least not from my perspective. IMO-Debi So if you know that something bad or wrong is going on that affects thousands of people and their families you just keep your mouth shut because someone told you to? Either this is another ploy, or I have lost my respect. I also agree about Abad being included is absurd. She has contributed continually. She has helped expose the NSS workings, which I thought was what Kevin worked on. He should also appreciate here DD. She believes their is money somewhere and we should get some of it. Me too. |
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Post by jannikki on Apr 18, 2007 20:38:33 GMT -6
| Why didn't the company address this a long time ago? |
Kevin wasn't the CEO/Chairman of the board back then. From what I understand from reading this PR, he is fed up with those who have misled us habitually.  | I have received several well intentioned emails from shareholders suggesting that I or the company should take some legal action and direct that cease and desist orders be put in place to stop such nonsense. I do not represent the company nor can I speak for their intentions in this regard. I know of no lawsuit nor legal action that can be taken which would cause a Judge somewhere to order that the general public should stop posting lies or unfounded rumors on message boards. |
Bill didn't represent the company at that time. Maybe the shareholders could not file suits against those who fed the rumor mill, but it could be a whole different ballgame if the company decides to pursue it.  As far as the "label" regarding abad, while I am not a fan of her's, I don't think she resides in the same category as the other two people who were mentioned. And, yes, there are many others who are far worse....I won't mention any names.  But, we have to remember Kevin was talking about people who have continuously posted things that elated the hopes of many people, only to be let down time and time again. I have personally read posts which stated it as a"fact" that brokers/clearance corps. paid for our certificates. If it's a fact, I have no proof of it in my account. I have no confirmation from the company officials or lawyers about an entitlement. What I do have is Kevin's word along with an undying hope that, somehow, when the smoke clears we'll still be standing. |
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Post by wwjdthrume on Apr 18, 2007 21:30:31 GMT -6
I find it unreal that Abadgoodgirl is lumped into the same category as Acca or Jay Adobe. I also find it hard to believe that money did not exchange hands for those certs. I suppose it's possible that money did exchange hands for our certs and it went to fund mining or legal expenses designed to seperate the company assets from the bad guys. I suppose it's possible that the company assets are now owned by the bad boys and we will get a story spun to us along with a minute portion of what was in the original claims. Transparency would be more than welcome. Unfortunately in my heart of hearts I think the bad guys includes many in our government. I hope this new CMKM gives full disclosure to the shareholders of every transaction they are aware of. I hope they put every single person who was in a position of authority under oath and asks them pointed questions designed to reveal the truth. The rumors of cash were passed onto shareholders by people in a position to know if their info was true or false from their jobs in banking and brokerage firms according to what I heard. It is entirely possible those banks and/or brokers had short positions and lied to lull us into complete complacency. It worked quite well. I remember shareholders getting mad that someone would upset the apple cart and screw up a settlement coming to them. I wish we upset the apple cart two years ago. It is outrageous to leave shareholders in the dark for two years and even this PR is only shedding partial light. It disgusts me that the people who bought their shares with their hard earned cash have had to hang onto any bit of info they can glean from anyone. [glow=red,2,300]I don't blame Kevin for this - it appears that he was gagged from talking to us.[/glow] BUT who gagged him and why? It still doesn't add up right. No wonder there have been persistent rumors. The facts as we know them do not add up still. At least not from my perspective. IMO-Debi So if you know that something bad or wrong is going on that affects thousands of people and their families you just keep your mouth shut because someone told you to? Either this is another ploy, or I have lost my respect. I also agree about Abad being included is absurd. She has contributed continually. She has helped expose the NSS workings, which I thought was what Kevin worked on. He should also appreciate here DD. She believes their is money somewhere and we should get some of it. Me too. Hi Evenup, Kevin would have talked with us sooner if he was able to. I don't have access to the info he has. I think he is a man with a great reputation who will do the right thing by us. He may not know if or what deals were made by Urban or Robert Maheu. If there was a non disclosure signed he may not be a party to it. If he was then he cannot comment on it. I do think it's funny to hear that ABGG is a bigger problem than all who have slandered and libeled the company and everyone affiliated with it. I agree that the constant promises of wealth coming our way has taken it's toll on everyone. But I also think that since we could easily guess the extent of the naked short via the dividend ratios and the numbers thrown around from the fax campaign that it was easy to believe our certs were paid for by someone. IMO-Debi |
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Post by dcswingtown on Apr 19, 2007 7:23:54 GMT -6
Lets hope we get that PR before Faulks show on Friday. I don't think I could stand the "I told you so's" from someone who can't see past the obvious.
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Post by smeagol8 on Apr 19, 2007 17:32:42 GMT -6
Just re-read KW's statement and had to laugh at it: He is upset because people are making "blatantly false" statements about the company. "Blatantly false" means obviously false. And while all the predictions from everyone up to the Belgians may be unsupported by any known information, that doesn't mean they are untrue, let alone "blatantly false". Since we know absolutely nothing about the dealings of our company, NOTHING is "Blatantly False". Of course, being an intelligent man, KW knows this already, so why would he make that statement? The only thing that comes to mind is the phrase 'plausible deniability'. KW can now say they did everything they could to stop such statements, including the threat of legal action.
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Post by ivory on Apr 19, 2007 20:03:28 GMT -6
Maybe Jay, Acca, and Abadgoodgirl were getting too close to the truth with some of their thoughts and the Company had to distance themselves so as not to appear to have a leak. Just something to think about. Batman I like your thought because I could not figure out why a person like Kevin West would issue an update(#2) like that without a good reason. New CMKM is where our "significant assets" will be. Hope we will get paid quietly. |
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Post by ivory on Apr 20, 2007 16:31:43 GMT -6
~ There is no delivery coming to your house after the PR on Friday.~ How about Monday???  |
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