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Post by jaxnorth on Oct 11, 2005 16:48:13 GMT -6
We are hearing all kinds of rumors now about a possible cash divy coming our way via the sale of some claims.
The naysayers still promote the fact that something as simple as a .01 divy is not possible because it would cost CMKX something like 8 billion dollars.
I disagree. If some of the rumors come true and there is a big announcement about retired shares, such as the 300 Billion from the AS increase, the 75 Billion from Nevada Minerals, and I heard rumor of another 300 Billion from John Martin, or Donahue, something to that effect, this could have the effect of taking our 703B down to 100B or so really quick.
Remember, Urban only has to pay on the LEGAL OS, the MM's and brokers have to pay everyone who holds NSS. So The likelyhood of Urban deciding to pay a cash divy is proportionally increased as the OS is decreased. The lower the OS, the more likely he will spring for a cash divy IMO.
Should this best case scenario pan out, then a .01 divy might only cost us in the 10's to 100 million. Still a huge amount of money for CMKX you say....well yes....but not a whole bunch of money if you just sold valuable minerals to the Chinese......what?....you don't think they print their own money?....and you don't think they could come up with 100 million?.......in a heartbeat they could.
I know much of this is just wishful thinking....but it is plausable that a huge retirement of the OS is going to be announced, and a small cash divy given to those who still hold shares in this stock. And yes, a foreign government could easily ante up to pay big bucks to CMKX for rights to minerals they desperately need.
Once again, just thinking out loud.........but wanting those who think that its impossible to get a cash divy to realize, with this stock, you never really know what is gonna happen.....and anything is possible........
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Post by ericdraven on Oct 11, 2005 16:51:49 GMT -6
With what Andy has been hinting at, this makes perfect sense. It has kind of been ignored but the divy would be based on a heck of a lot less shares then most thought we had outstanding. I don't know about coming all to way down to your figure but maybe double that. And totally agree that this will be paid by two means ... foreign money and DTC insurance.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2005 17:30:10 GMT -6
JaxNorth, Let me add to that by saying, the Chinese Government has as a matter of policy been doing two things. A. Buying American dollars and debt. and B. Re-invested the profits from its state run enterprises directly into the growth of their economy. In order for their economy to grow they have to acquire both energy supplies to fuel it and the raw materials to build the "stuff" with. They have been all over the world looking desperately for Oil, Iron Ore, Potash, and other essential industrial raw materials. doh. Now who do we know that has those things? The China connection is almost a no-brainer. edit: Also, in addition... if the OS has been reduced to 100 billion and person or persons close to the company but not required to file has picked up 100 billion NSS shares... doh... that could pay for the divy and the cash from sales of claims could be re-invested into growth...  |
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Post by tramp on Oct 11, 2005 17:40:31 GMT -6
We are hearing all kinds of rumors now about a possible cash divy coming our way via the sale of some claims. The naysayers still promote the fact that something as simple as a .01 divy is not possible because it would cost CMKX something like 8 billion dollars. I disagree. If some of the rumors come true and there is a big announcement about retired shares, such as the 300 Billion from the AS increase, the 75 Billion from Nevada Minerals, and I heard rumor of another 300 Billion from John Martin, or Donahue, something to that effect, this could have the effect of taking our 703B down to 100B or so really quick. Remember, Urban only has to pay on the LEGAL OS, the MM's and brokers have to pay everyone who holds NSS. So The likelyhood of Urban deciding to pay a cash divy is proportionally increased as the OS is decreased. The lower the OS, the more likely he will spring for a cash divy IMO. Should this best case scenario pan out, then a .01 divy might only cost us in the 10's to 100 million. Still a huge amount of money for CMKX you say....well yes....but not a whole bunch of money if you just sold valuable minerals to the Chinese......what?....you don't think they print their own money?....and you don't think they could come up with 100 million?.......in a heartbeat they could. I know much of this is just wishful thinking....but it is plausable that a huge retirement of the OS is going to be announced, and a small cash divy given to those who still hold shares in this stock. And yes, a foreign government could easily ante up to pay big bucks to CMKX for rights to minerals they desperately need. Once again, just thinking out loud.........but wanting those who think that its impossible to get a cash divy to realize, with this stock, you never really know what is gonna happen.....and anything is possible........ you see, some don't think about the big picture, just narrow, and have in their heads a fixed number...703.5.. i still say, we are at or below the first orginal o/s of 10.5 billion.. we had retiring of shares btw sept 03, to jan.04...way before the numbers were increased, and they could be all in a sock and undie drawer.. safely put away. look at twistcappers thread, where good ol jawz, brought up a very old post of mine, from my old rb days.. and i posted it on my group, subpennies. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2005 18:08:35 GMT -6
Tramp, I'm going to say 100 billion... why?
If the theory about a cmkx / srci 20 billion swap is true, that would equal 40 billion. 10+ billion for insiders to maintain a significant portion and 51% and 49 or less billion for an IPO to be offered to the public or periodically invest in company growth.
But, you are probably correct in that even for a mainstream multi billion dollar conglomerate, 100 billion is a large number of authorized and would negatively impact share value. So, you may be right.
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Post by tramp on Oct 11, 2005 18:21:10 GMT -6
Tramp, I'm going to say 100 billion... why? If the theory about a cmkx / srci 20 billion swap is true, that would equal 40 billion. 10+ billion for insiders to maintain a significant portion and 51% and 49 or less billion for an IPO to be offered to the public or periodically invest in company growth. But, you are probably correct in that even for a mainstream multi billion dollar conglomerate, 100 billion is a large number of authorized and would negatively impact share value. So, you may be right. if the 100 is a/s.. sure.. that would work.. its going to be nice to see the numbers.. |
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Post by jaxnorth on Oct 11, 2005 19:00:30 GMT -6
Tramp......if your numbers are correct.........wow.......that would set this investment on fire.........and it would go "two das moon"...........
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Post by broadhorizons on Oct 11, 2005 20:12:50 GMT -6
The smaller that OS gets, the wider my grin becomes! ;D
Sincerely,
Broad Horizons
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Post by senna on Oct 11, 2005 21:32:22 GMT -6
Tramp...Has been on this track for a long time and I am a strong believer in his theory, he also is correct IMO that CMKX will pave the way for CIM...watch and see...$40.00+ it will happen as long as the right pieces fall into their places and that is happening as we speak and will continue to.
senna
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