ABAD repost: Deutsche Bank short ???

[hermannmaier0]

From Abadgoodgirl
ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=1142168
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Phenomenal repost of mine. Deutsche Bank SHORT???

Anglo American owns 49% of DeBeers and is publicly traded. They are based in London and S.A. Their London office is 20 Carlton House Terrace.

These individuals are on their BOD:

Sir Mark Moody-Stuart
A J Trahar
D J Challen
B E Davison
Dr. C E Fay
R M Godsell
A W Lea
G Lindahl
R J Margetts
Dr. M S B Marques
W A Nairn [resigned December 31, 2004]
N F Oppenheimer
F T M Phaswana
Sir David Scholey
Prof K A L M Van Miert

The Executive Committee presently comprises: A J Trahar (chairman), B E Davison, D A Hathorn, R J King, A W Lea, W A Nairn (retired December 31, 2004- he was technical director) and S R Thompson.

The investment committee manages the process of capital allocation. Investment committee is A W Lea (chairman), D A Hathorn, A E Redman, S R Thompson and P G Whitcutt (Head of Finance)

Anglo American [owns 49% of DeBeers) and here is a list of its competitors

BHP Billiton plc
Companhia Vale do Rio Doce
Freeport McMoRan Copper & Gold Inc.
Kumba Resources Limited
Noranda Inc
Rio Tinto plc
Teck Cominco Limited
WMC Resources Limited
Xstrata plc

Interesting highlights of Anglo American’s f/s

Normally the name of the major lender is disclosed but I couldn't find out who the bank loans came from.

Anglo’s long term debt:
Within one year or on demand:
Bank loans and overdrafts - $2,633,000,000
Other financial liabilities - $1,388,000,000

They had also established a $1,300 million Canadian Commercial Paper Programme established a number of years ago (2003 is my guess)

The disposals:
Disposal of interest in Gold Fields Limited
Part disposal of Western Areas
Disposal of remaining interest in FirstRand Limited
Disposal of interest in Nkomati
Disposal of interest in Avgold
Disposal of Terra industries
Loss on redemption of DeBeers’ preference shares
Loss on disposal of Hudson Bay Mining
Disposal of interest in Li & Fung
Disposal of interest in East Africa Gold Mines
Their profit on disposal of fixed assets amounted to $520 million.


opsuround, I just keep forgetting that Anglo American owns 49% of DeBeers and I keep on forgetting that they could be involved in this too somehow.

I just wanted to put it out there in case any of the names can be tied to the QVT Hedge fund or Deutsche Bank AG or LPI in some fashion.

We already know that QVT Hedge fund is a spin off from Deutsche Bank AG and we also know that QVT continues to manage a separate "discretionary" account for Deutsche Bank AG ("the Separate Account").

Now they've been reduced to spineless desperate little bashers. They finally lost one... and it's a biggie sized loss for them and their ilk.

I guess that old saying is true. What goes around comes around and bashers it's coming your way... in a big way.

07, my little butter bean, I have somehow riled all these bashers up. This is why:

DeBeers----<Anglo American---<Deutsche Bank----<QVT Hedge Fund---<shorting the living crap out of CMKM Diamonds

But Maheu’s friend Kirk Krekorian slammed QVT and DB when out of the blue, Krekorian went long on a huge % of GM stock.

In summary from an article I found last night:

"QVT Financial LP endured heavy losses by simultaneously taking a long position on GM's bonds and taking a short position on GM stock. First hit (DB:NYSE ADR) which reportedly brokered the trades. [DB=Deutsche Bank AG]

Now go back to Maheu's style.... he sent out a message to QVT & DB, DeBeers' and Anglo's predator that CMKX can and will hurt you. CMKX will track down every blue chip you've shorted and cause you great pain. You have lost.

[gosh]

well they deserve it where is our thumbs down

and so do we

[Deleted]

Most excellent!

[gusjarvis]

amazing post!

[golden1101]

What I like about ABAD . . . She is so humble.

Phenomenal repost of mine. Deutsche Bank SHORT???
golden ;D

[wwjdthrume]

golden1101 said:

What I like about ABAD . . . She is so humble.

Phenomenal repost of mine. Deutsche Bank SHORT???
golden ;D

If you are going to brag you have to deliver the goods.

Abad delivered. Excellent, one might say phenomenal.

IMO-Debi

[hermannmaier0]

I like the idea of MAHEU tracking down enemy's short positions..and having "friends" go long til it hurts. Max Pain back at them. Imagine the tenticles reaching around in this scenario. Maheu is part of the Octipus's head IMO. We are lucky. I read some things today about past "outfits" involving Maheu and associates that I dont want to repeat. Truelly. We are lucky to have this man and his network working for CMKX. There is no way he is here to lend his name, or to be part of something small, or inconsequencial. JMO.

[hermannmaier0]

Another great ABAD post about Debeers and anti-cmkx agenda, or just coincidence???.

By: abadgoodgirl
27 Sep 2005, 11:54 AM EDT
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Notice the timing of sudden substantial volume in the trading of CMKX as it compares to the timing of DeBeers' conclusion of drilling in mid November 2003.

I'd say it safe to presume one or more of the core samples was pulled out of the ground in September since they drilled four holes.

Now look at the trading volume of CMKX stock. It goes from trading a handful of shares for the first eight months of 2003 to billions in the month of September 2003 and it hasn't stopped since. notice VOLUME

bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=cmkx&time=&freq=


Here's the deal from Debeers' own geology report:

In 2003 DeBeers had its own crew do a ground gravity survey accompanied by differential GPS to re-examine certain areas.

A large gravity anomaly of significant amplitude was delineated immediately east of, and contiguous to, the 150 kimberlite.

The anomaly covered an area approximately three times that of the known 150 kimberlite of kimberlite. DeBeers said that if the anomaly does represent a substantial body, then it could be the largest body identified in the entire Kimberlite Field.

DeBeers drilled a bunch of holes and when the drilling concluded in mid November 2003 it was determined that significant intersections of prospective kimberlite were encountered in each of the kimberlite bodies investigated.

Sufficient coverage of the bodies from this program and previous drilling will permit construction of geological models.

What a coincidence. DeBeers had discovered, as I already pointed out in my previous posts, that not all kimberlites retain magnetic properties.

Therefore, new survey methods not available BEFORE Urban Casavant snatched the claims revealed many more anomolies than originally discovered with the aero-magnetic surveys normally used to discover anomolies.

The timing of the increased volume in CMKX stock and the sense of urgency with which DeBeers increased its diamond efforts in the FALC region is remarkable.

[golden1101]

wwjdthrume said:

golden1101 said:

What I like about ABAD . . . She is so humble.

Phenomenal repost of mine. Deutsche Bank SHORT???
golden ;D

If you are going to brag you have to deliver the goods.

Abad delivered. Excellent, one might say phenomenal.

IMO-Debi

Oh . . . I agree! I just found that pretty funny . . . And congrats Debi on your modship.
golden ;D

[hermannmaier0]

Buried in old archived postings ,below, I was reminded;
there was a topic that I remember hearing about over a year ago. Some group was caught drilling on cmkx claims...was the spy drilling for debeers???..this was rumor I heard in spring 04.

here is an excerpt from post I found that mentions it.

".......they caught some people on the property taking core sample.
Turns out was there third time..."

64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:XVj5jWM4fJkJ:www.diamondblog.com/archives/000870.html+petroplus+studer+casavant+found+drilling+three+3+times&hl=en

or

tinyurl.com/cq8lb

[mineralsrus]

Excellent observation on both post within this thread.

Abad is a DD hound no doubt!

I am certain our biggest adversaries are our competitors when it comes to shorting and bashing..they want our land period!

With Maheu at the console, our phalanx system will soon take them out like an un-protected drone.

Victory is imminent

[holdnolonger]

---<Deutsche Bank----<QVT Hedge Fund ( Maybe George the socialist Sorros is one of the big fish too, he is linked with deutsche bank and is in the top 10 worlds billionaire money list) Mr Hedge fund himself, Goerge Sorrors. He loves to short currenencies. eom

[hxpe]

wwjdthrume said:

golden1101 said:

What I like about ABAD . . . She is so humble.

Phenomenal repost of mine. Deutsche Bank SHORT???
golden ;D

If you are going to brag you have to deliver the goods.

Abad delivered. Excellent, one might say phenomenal.

IMO-Debi

What the lady said! Could not put it any better.

[golden1101]

hxpe said:

wwjdthrume said:

If you are going to brag you have to deliver the goods.

Abad delivered. Excellent, one might say phenomenal.

IMO-Debi

What the lady said! Could not put it any better.

lol . . . I know, I know. I was only laughing, NOT doubting.
golden ;D