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Post by nandi on Oct 4, 2005 7:28:39 GMT -6
Would someone - who knows - please explain to me what is a "Controlled Squeeze?
I keep hearing the term and I can conjecture with the best of them, but I truly don't know what one is or how it works.
Thanks all in advance. My best,
n
I'm really need to understand this. Does anyone know? Or is this just the current phrase du jur everyone now uses (having their own idea of what it means to them) without fully understanding what it really means.
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Post by starfire1 on Oct 4, 2005 8:25:46 GMT -6
nandi good question I would like to know myself - maybe someone can help with an explanation.
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Post by TexasPride on Oct 4, 2005 8:35:30 GMT -6
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Post by tramp on Oct 4, 2005 8:40:09 GMT -6
my understanding, from what i heard, is they will let it run to a point, get some sells, and drop the price again, and no buying allowed, let it run some, stop again, sells, and drop the price.. control it.
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Post by nandi on Oct 4, 2005 8:58:50 GMT -6
Thanks Guys, I appreciate your help. Starfire, thanks for responding. I thought my question, and more importantly, a good answer, was bound for oblivion. lol Tramp, I'm especially grateful for you interpretation. I've been kind of thinking along the same lines, but with CMKX on the Greys, with the MM's not being able to stockpile (so I understand) shares and so have none warehoused, as it were, but now are only legally ( , I know - mm and legal is an oxymoron) able to "make the market" by buying from someone who desires to sell and to selling those shares to another who wishes to buy, and supposidly lacking the ability to create a false price, how can they do what you suggest? "they will let it run to a point, get some sells, and drop the price again, and no buying allowed, let it run some, stop again, sells, and drop the price.. control it." I mean, "no buying allowed"! That strikes me as criminal on its face. I know, I know...................... Not a criticism Tramp. I simply can't wrap myself around what a controlled squeeze is without hitting legal bumps. Texas Pride, I did check Investopidia earlier and once again just now (thanks for the link) but all I can find is "short squeeze". Thanks to all three of you for your time. And another thanks for this board. My best, n
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Post by gtajim on Oct 4, 2005 9:05:25 GMT -6
There is buying, if not there is no squeeze. BCIT is a stock that was undergoing a controlled squeeze. look at chart.
Controlled squeeze just means that the pirce will go up in a slow controlled manner as opposed to insane 10,000% spikes. There should also be shakes(MM's drop price so that they can refill before the next move up). There can also be consolidation,Price moves within a range, before each move up.
If it is not controlled and it instead has an insane spike upwards it will most probably have an insane spike back down.
Hope that helps.
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Post by nandi on Oct 4, 2005 9:16:56 GMT -6
There is buying, if not there is no squeeze. BCIT is a stock that was undergoing a controlled squeeze. look at chart. Controlled squeeze just means that the pirce will go up in a slow controlled manner as opposed to insane 10,000% spikes. There should also be shakes(MM's drop price so that they can refill before the next move up). There can also be consolidation,Price moves within a range, before each move up. If it is not controlled and it instead has an insane spike upwards it will most probably have an insane spike back down. Hope that helps. GTAJim, Thank you. But I'm still in the dark. I'm new to stocks, so my fog is not a criticism of your input. But what you said to me seems to beg the question. ("Controlled squeeze just means that the pirce will go up in a slow controlled manner as opposed to insane 10,000% spikes.") This is what I'm asking about. How does one "control" a squeeze? If we are now on the Greys and the MM's have no inventory and can only sell to a buyer and buy from a seller - AND HOLD NO STOCK themselves - wherein is the control? ("There should also be shakes(MM's drop price so that they can refill before the next move up). There can also be consolidation,Price moves within a range, before each move up.") How GTAJim? How? Where is the mechanism for control? How will they do this? It isn't enough to say they will control the action. That is exactly the issue I need an answer to. But I do thank you for your time. As I said, I'm mostly in a fog about what is being done to my investment. I thought I understood what legal and honest and keeping a binding contractual agreement with an investor meant. Boy, am I green! n
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Post by starfire1 on Oct 4, 2005 9:20:50 GMT -6
Thanks Guys, I appreciate your help. Starfire, thanks for responding. I thought my question, and more importantly, a good answer, was bound for oblivion. lol Tramp, I'm especially grateful for you interpretation. I've been kind of thinking along the same lines, but with CMKX on the Greys, with the MM's not being able to stockpile (so I understand) shares and so have none warehoused, as it were, but now are only legally ( , I know - mm and legal is an oxymoron) able to "make the market" by buying from someone who desires to sell and to selling those shares to another who wishes to buy, and supposidly lacking the ability to create a false price, how can they do what you suggest? "they will let it run to a point, get some sells, and drop the price again, and no buying allowed, let it run some, stop again, sells, and drop the price.. control it." I mean, "no buying allowed"! That strikes me as criminal on its face. I know, I know...................... Not a criticism Tramp. I simply can't wrap myself around what a controlled squeeze is without hitting legal bumps. Texas Pride, I did check Investopidia earlier and once again just now (thanks for the link) but all I can find is "short squeeze". Thanks to all three of you for your time. And another thanks for this board. My best, n nandi next time you have a question just bump your own thread sometimes the board threads go so fast that its hard to keep up and good post go un noticed :-)
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Post by nandi on Oct 4, 2005 9:22:02 GMT -6
You're a Sweetie! Thank you. ;D Thanks Guys, I appreciate your help. Starfire, thanks for responding. I thought my question, and more importantly, a good answer, was bound for oblivion. lol Tramp, I'm especially grateful for you interpretation. I've been kind of thinking along the same lines, but with CMKX on the Greys, with the MM's not being able to stockpile (so I understand) shares and so have none warehoused, as it were, but now are only legally ( , I know - mm and legal is an oxymoron) able to "make the market" by buying from someone who desires to sell and to selling those shares to another who wishes to buy, and supposidly lacking the ability to create a false price, how can they do what you suggest? "they will let it run to a point, get some sells, and drop the price again, and no buying allowed, let it run some, stop again, sells, and drop the price.. control it." I mean, "no buying allowed"! That strikes me as criminal on its face. I know, I know...................... Not a criticism Tramp. I simply can't wrap myself around what a controlled squeeze is without hitting legal bumps. Texas Pride, I did check Investopidia earlier and once again just now (thanks for the link) but all I can find is "short squeeze". Thanks to all three of you for your time. And another thanks for this board. My best, n nandi next time you have a question just bump your own thread sometimes the board threads go so fast that its hard to keep up and good post go un noticed :-)
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Post by ericdraven on Oct 4, 2005 9:28:58 GMT -6
Nandi ... we are ALL going to GREEN .... like in money green. That color happens to look very, very good on me. A nice sliming effect, you know.
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Post by gosh on Oct 4, 2005 9:33:42 GMT -6
There is buying, if not there is no squeeze. BCIT is a stock that was undergoing a controlled squeeze. look at chart. Controlled squeeze just means that the pirce will go up in a slow controlled manner as opposed to insane 10,000% spikes. There should also be shakes(MM's drop price so that they can refill before the next move up). There can also be consolidation,Price moves within a range, before each move up. If it is not controlled and it instead has an insane spike upwards it will most probably have an insane spike back down. Hope that helps. agree i do not think there can be no buying because why should anyone sell... they see it go up some sell then down and again they won't fall in because how high will the next spurt be ?
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Post by branfordjohn on Oct 4, 2005 9:35:00 GMT -6
my understanding, from what i heard, is they will let it run to a point, get some sells, and drop the price again, and no buying allowed, let it run some, stop again, sells, and drop the price.. control it. Tramp: So I guess the question is at what PPS point will the "real" longs hold out for? Thnaks as always.
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Post by gosh on Oct 4, 2005 9:37:43 GMT -6
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Post by gtajim on Oct 4, 2005 9:47:44 GMT -6
There is buying, if not there is no squeeze. BCIT is a stock that was undergoing a controlled squeeze. look at chart. Controlled squeeze just means that the pirce will go up in a slow controlled manner as opposed to insane 10,000% spikes. There should also be shakes(MM's drop price so that they can refill before the next move up). There can also be consolidation,Price moves within a range, before each move up. If it is not controlled and it instead has an insane spike upwards it will most probably have an insane spike back down. Hope that helps. GTAJim, Thank you. But I'm still in the dark. I'm new to stocks, so my fog is not a criticism of your input. But what you said to me seems to beg the question. ("Controlled squeeze just means that the pirce will go up in a slow controlled manner as opposed to insane 10,000% spikes.") This is what I'm asking about. How does one "control" a squeeze? If we are now on the Greys and the MM's have no inventory and can only sell to a buyer and buy from a seller - AND HOLD NO STOCK themselves - wherein is the control? ("There should also be shakes(MM's drop price so that they can refill before the next move up). There can also be consolidation,Price moves within a range, before each move up.") How GTAJim? How? Where is the mechanism for control? How will they do this? It isn't enough to say they will control the action. That is exactly the issue I need an answer to. But I do thank you for your time. As I said, I'm mostly in a fog about what is being done to my investment. I thought I understood what legal and honest and keeping a binding contractual agreement with an investor meant. Boy, am I green! n We will move off the Greys before Squeeze. I can't see a controlled squeeze working on the greys. Just look at the mood swings SGGM has! LOL. MM's are needed they are the ones who will control squeeze. We may see the company give share to the MM's to get this started. who knows.
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Post by tramp on Oct 4, 2005 9:48:18 GMT -6
There is buying, if not there is no squeeze. BCIT is a stock that was undergoing a controlled squeeze. look at chart. Controlled squeeze just means that the pirce will go up in a slow controlled manner as opposed to insane 10,000% spikes. There should also be shakes(MM's drop price so that they can refill before the next move up). There can also be consolidation,Price moves within a range, before each move up. If it is not controlled and it instead has an insane spike upwards it will most probably have an insane spike back down. Hope that helps. jim: from what i heard, a settlement, and that would have the blessing of the sec, because of a agreement of all invovled. now how this will play out, just have to wait and see when this goes, and see if it keeps to the script. right now i'm in the dark as everyone else..and that to me is the only way they can get the nss back. this whole thing is complex, even to me..
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Post by nandi on Oct 4, 2005 10:02:31 GMT -6
Tramp, GTAJim, Gosh - everyone,
Thanks for the input and effort. I must admit, this is more complex than I would have ever figured. You know GTAJim, the simple often eludes me.
The thought that we'd move off the Greys simply did not occur to me.
Once again, Thanks guys. My best,
n
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Post by wodan11 on Oct 4, 2005 10:07:37 GMT -6
sell in a rush buy in a squeeze if you sell in a rush they even fill you at the ask if the mms need the shares
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Post by gtajim on Oct 4, 2005 10:27:48 GMT -6
There is buying, if not there is no squeeze. BCIT is a stock that was undergoing a controlled squeeze. look at chart. Controlled squeeze just means that the pirce will go up in a slow controlled manner as opposed to insane 10,000% spikes. There should also be shakes(MM's drop price so that they can refill before the next move up). There can also be consolidation,Price moves within a range, before each move up. If it is not controlled and it instead has an insane spike upwards it will most probably have an insane spike back down. Hope that helps. jim: from what i heard, a settlement, and that would have the blessing of the sec, because of a agreement of all invovled. now how this will play out, just have to wait and see when this goes, and see if it keeps to the script. right now i'm in the dark as everyone else..and that to me is the only way they can get the nss back. this whole thing is complex, even to me.. that would be great!
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Post by kidscollegefund on Oct 4, 2005 10:28:47 GMT -6
NASD.
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