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Post by wwjdthrume on May 25, 2006 16:29:52 GMT -6
I like that he says he expects a PR from the company. We have heard that before BUT one of these days Mr. Frizzell will be right.
I also wonder if the delay in getting Ameritrade certs is Aturd chasing down whatever MM shorted it to us and pocketed the funds or if they were buying from another MM and those shares were non existent?
I don't really understand all the ways that CMKX was shorted, but I thought that the MM's and brokerage houses played musical CMKX chairs with forwarding the short aka covering with a new short and round and round it goes. Now the music has stopped and there are not enough chairs. Does that make sense?
IMO-Debi
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Post by whetstone on May 25, 2006 16:35:21 GMT -6
and we still have tommorow yet.. according to our belgians the ipo will be june 5 or 6.. I expected some word from the company this week regarding a press release. I have not received any information on when the next press release from the company will be issued. Bill is apparently so far out of the loop that he can't even pick up the phone and call Stoecklein and ask about a PR. |
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Post by saturn on May 25, 2006 16:38:00 GMT -6
I am upset that they are still accepting certs. Since the deadline was clearly set a long time ago.
On the other hand I can't get upset because those are certs from our fellow shareholders. It is not their fault their brokerage is slow and trying to cheat them. I will wait for them. Not that I want to but because we have to.
I welcome the late certs.
Saturn
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Post by Duc n Altum on May 25, 2006 16:40:51 GMT -6
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Post by moontraveler on May 25, 2006 16:40:53 GMT -6
It would be a real shame if AmeriTrade were to start receiving thousands of phone calls per day, from people asking them numerous questions and basically wasting "their" time... They seem to like to play games, so I'm sure they wouldn't mind.  There's a good idea Tex. What if we were to ALL call them and ask if we can be of assitance in getting the rest of their certs out tomorrow. I'll do it..... who wants to?? I will commit to 2 phone calls tomorrow. I'm a paying Ameritrade member... I'm in  |
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Post by stockcrazy on May 25, 2006 16:41:22 GMT -6
IMO the best part of this update is that Frizzel doesnt know any details about a PR or when it will be released. If this PR had to do with just the distribution of Entourage I would think he would know more details on the PR. As most of us already believe, the PR we are about to get is going to be about more than Entourage, if it includes entourage at all. Frizzel can know nothing about the details or its contents. All IMO.
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Post by eshille on May 25, 2006 16:42:56 GMT -6
Well...if no shareholder will be left behind and there is no extension for the cert pull...then...are they BACK DATING the certs? OR has everyone indeed settled and it's just a matter of paperwork??? It just gets...Stranger and Stranger...  |
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Post by shoelessjoe on May 25, 2006 16:45:42 GMT -6
Remember the post on RB a couple days ago from nufced where he stated he called the TA and they said they were DONE?? A few more frequent updates from Frizzell and we can keep these people that like to stretch the truth out of the picture. blue Maybe it is because the entourage distribution isn['t the only thing involved here and is unimportant compared to other matters. ie: other assetts |
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Post by nandi on May 25, 2006 16:46:21 GMT -6
It is what it is, but........................................................
To this day, I fail to understand why someone connected with our COMPANY does not simply issue a PR stating to the effect:
"Dear Shareholders of CMKX, we commend your patience and we understand and sympathize with your frustration in the on-going process of the CMKX certificate pull.
"We are not in a position to offer any insight or information at this time, but please rest assured that we continue to strive in your behalf. Thank you for your efforts toward the success of this certificate pull and our beneficial future."
What would be so wrong about our Company putting our something like this? Requesting and expecting simple communication from our Company is not out of line or to be considered bashing, or we live in an entirely different World than I had thought we do.
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Post by whetstone on May 25, 2006 16:46:33 GMT -6
No... it says that he "EXPECTED" some word from the company. |
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Post by islandtime1 on May 25, 2006 16:50:49 GMT -6
Frizzels update said " The certs were dated the 15th. So they are still within the limits?
Just s*cks the brokers are playing games?
If true then The more the TF counts the more we make?? $$$$$
IMHO, It's worth the wait?? (I think?)..LOL
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Post by seemkayx on May 25, 2006 17:10:51 GMT -6
Frizzels update said " The certs were dated the 15th. So they are still within the limits? Just s*cks the brokers are playing games? If true then the more the TF counts the more we make?? $$$$$ IMHO, It's worth the wait?? (I think?)..LOL islandtime1, I'm hearing the concept. While we wait the interest grows. "It's worth the wait" is subjective in nature. I understand there is nothing we can do but wait. However, in some personal instances, it may not be worth the wait. Yes, I am disappointed. I was looking forward to a PR not an OG update, as I'm sure we all were.  We still have the rest of the evening for a PR, and there is always tomorrow. Am I dreaming? |
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Post by ivory on May 25, 2006 17:33:34 GMT -6
More certs more $$$ in our common trust if the settlement pps has been determined!
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Post by islandtime1 on May 25, 2006 17:41:45 GMT -6
We MUST understand that these certs were dated ON THE 15th. It falls within the limits of the deadline!(fact) But I agree it would be nice to have the TF tell us something?? Did anyone ever think the Feds might? ? have a gag order on the TF untill after the cert pull is over??(just a thought) It is not over if the certs they are counting NOW have been dated on or before the deadline? per Frizzles own words(certs were dated the 15th)  Island |
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Post by bbildman on May 25, 2006 17:45:12 GMT -6
Everyone, take a DEEP breath. Ok. Now, let us remember none of us is privy as to WHAT exactly is transpiring behind the scenes. That said, who here is to say WHAT, WHEN and HOW the company should communicate with us? Let us ALL remember and think about this:: Does ANYONE here REALLY think all this trouble to get certs requested and recorded is REALLY about Entourage distribution?? There IS a big picture here, and I am going to take the wisdom of the persons running this sting at face value -- without their foresight and endurance (yes, on their part also) -- none of us would be here with bated breath looking to become rich. If the company feels that a PR now would be counter-productive, let's give them that and just relax while they put all the pieces in their proper place in the required amount of time for all to transpire faultlessly. I for one am not about to start clamoring for PRs when the very people we put our trust in from the beginning are basically saying "it's not quite time yet!" Roll with it, brothers and sisters, keep your  and hold the Faith! |
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Post by islandtime1 on May 25, 2006 17:45:31 GMT -6
I believe as Jay said that any certs dated AFTER the 15th are in a different category?
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Post by turk on May 25, 2006 18:27:23 GMT -6
Not sure if this has been asked or explained but ...
can someone please explain why Ameritrade is calling the shots on this. I thought IBM and TEAM were in control.
Why does Ameritrade feel that the rules don't apply to them?
E-Trade saw fit to get their certs in on time. Why couldn't a-turd do the same?
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Post by eshille on May 25, 2006 18:34:25 GMT -6
Everyone, take a DEEP breath. Ok. Now, let us remember none of us is privy as to WHAT exactly is transpiring behind the scenes. That said, who here is to say WHAT, WHEN and HOW the company should communicate with us? Let us ALL remember and think about this:: Does ANYONE here REALLY think all this trouble to get certs requested and recorded is REALLY about Entourage distribution?? There IS a big picture here, and I am going to take the wisdom of the persons running this sting at face value -- without their foresight and endurance (yes, on their part also) -- none of us would be here with bated breath looking to become rich. If the company feels that a PR now would be counter-productive, let's give them that and just relax while they put all the pieces in their proper place in the required amount of time for all to transpire faultlessly. I for one am not about to start clamoring for PRs when the very people we put our trust in from the beginning are basically saying "it's not quite time yet!" Roll with it, brothers and sisters, keep your and hold the Faith! Excellent!  ;D |
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Post by eshille on May 25, 2006 18:36:49 GMT -6
I gave all of my coloring books away... now I need one.  Honey....join me on the Birthday Thread...lots of ways to play over there... which is quite soothing to the NERVES... ya see...I carry my coloring books with me, always... Take Care |
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Post by eshille on May 25, 2006 18:45:17 GMT -6
Not sure if this has been asked or explained but ... can someone please explain why Ameritrade is calling the shots on this. I thought IBM and TEAM were in control. Why does Ameritrade feel that the rules don't apply to them? E-Trade saw fit to get their certs in on time. Why couldn't a-turd do the same? Maybe the powerful ones were waiting for the next shoe to drop. I see the Houston paper had front page copies ready for the conviction event, celebration jubilee in front of the Federal Courthouse. National headlines are reading this conviction is sending a message to all corporate CEO's and company executives, they will PROSECUTE for CRIMES committed. Ya think any crimes have been committed with the CMKX NSS issue?  We are in the middle of the biggest sting in the history of the financial markets... |
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Post by ocdmike on May 25, 2006 18:55:11 GMT -6
something still puzzles me, it has been said that 10% of the brokers control 90% of the real estate while 90% of brokers controls the other 10%. this ratio seems to hold true throughout the investment community. with that said, why if a settlement is done ,would so many pinkies ,particularly in the mining game still be floundering if 10% of the bad guys have been rounded up? especially when precious metals prices are near all time highs? dont get me wrong, im in to win , long and strong.just things that make you go hhhhuuuuummmmm!
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Post by xxed on May 25, 2006 19:13:01 GMT -6
I thought this update was enlightening.. Not so much because of what it says, but because of what it didn't say.... It didn't say, that the TF is aware of the rumors circulating that we are going to receive a payment by the end of the month and that this rumor is not true and should not be believed.. How many times has he debunked those rumors? But not this time..... Hmmmmmmmmmm I was thinking about this too. If the T/F knows how many rumors were floating around, would they say something about them? Hmmm.... |
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Post by wag on May 25, 2006 19:26:09 GMT -6
I think the TF doesn't care about rumors or in hurry to get this settled and therefore no need to address. It doesn't appear Frizzel has much contact with the other members of the TF. He doesn't seem to know much more than we do. I thought this update was enlightening.. Not so much because of what it says, but because of what it didn't say.... It didn't say, that the TF is aware of the rumors circulating that we are going to receive a payment by the end of the month and that this rumor is not true and should not be believed.. How many times has he debunked those rumors? But not this time..... Hmmmmmmmmmm I was thinking about this too. If the T/F knows how many rumors were floating around, would they say something about them? Hmmm.... |
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Post by spidy on May 25, 2006 19:51:33 GMT -6
Not sure if this has been asked or explained but ... can someone please explain why Ameritrade is calling the shots on this. I thought IBM and TEAM were in control. Why does Ameritrade feel that the rules don't apply to them? E-Trade saw fit to get their certs in on time. Why couldn't a-turd do the same? Maybe Ameritrade had to pay more money!!! |
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Post by gtajim on May 25, 2006 19:56:37 GMT -6
Remember the post on RB a couple days ago from nufced where he stated he called the TA and they said they were DONE?? A few more frequent updates from Frizzell and we can keep these people that like to stretch the truth out of the picture. blue Maybe it is because the entourage distribution isn['t the only thing involved here and is unimportant compared to other matters. ie: other assetts I agree. This shows that CMKX is looking after all shareholders. they would not do that for Enourage distribution. You are better off calling your shares worthless than getting the distribution. Have we counted the first batch of certs from Ameritrade? count seems low |
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