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Post by diamondgolf on May 15, 2006 18:21:20 GMT -6
What whetstone said....."Bonafide get the distribution and the others follow a different, longer, litigious path." And if you didn't pay attention and request your certs at all? Sorry about your luck...we're moving on without you - you blew your chance. This list should be able to be completed tomorrow. JMO. - golf Which means litigation... court cases for those others to get what should have come to them. IMO With all due respect seagull.... I disagree. I've said this before - If you didn't request your certs, IMO, you will be S.O.L. The TF and the company did all they legelly needed to do to get you to do what you needed to do. If you didn't pay attention to your investment - your problem. And that's the way it should be. - golf
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Post by teetime2 on May 15, 2006 18:23:54 GMT -6
I thank God I got my certs, but this thing could go on for yet another while...I've waited this long I guess a few more years won't matter, lol... I really hope not, but this has been one bad ride...I hope the hold outs have to pay double and then some.
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Post by fishing4diamonds on May 15, 2006 18:25:20 GMT -6
Imagine that. Some brokers can't and/or are refusing to get certs for their clients. Hmmmmmmmmm. Funny that is happening. I wonder why. Pay special attention to only one thing in this pr folks. Nothing else is important in it right now except this; I have not been told when the company will issue a formal press release announcing the next step in the proceedings.
And I only have ONE comment. Please don't send pm's. Funtime has begun, we've won". nuff said. If you don't like this pr, "sumtins wong". F4D, One question, is this the news you were expecting to get this week? I was expecting a little more. Don't be surprise if we get something else this week. f4d~
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Post by madmaan on May 15, 2006 18:30:29 GMT -6
Those brokers will never cert their customers ever, and if anyone expects them to they're dead wrong.
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Post by xtremeriches on May 15, 2006 18:41:24 GMT -6
Which means litigation... court cases for those others to get what should have come to them. IMO With all due respect seagull.... I disagree. I've said this before - If you didn't request your certs, IMO, you will be S.O.L. The TF and the company did all they legelly needed to do to get you to do what you needed to do. If you didn't pay attention to your investment - your problem. And that's the way it should be. - golf Frizzle is talking about people who have requested certs and the broker won't get them. They will now have a judge force them to request certs from the TA even if the TA is out of them so the Naked Short can be proven. Frizzle used the word LEGIONS (3000-6000 is one legion) of peiple who requested but havn't gotten their certs. The Brokers don't want the counter to go higher. Now we wait for the company to tell us what their going to do about it.
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Post by linedrive on May 15, 2006 18:41:42 GMT -6
"It was stated in the press release in November of 2005 that the Task Force would “use all means necessary, including bringing Federal or State court legal action to make certain all bona fide CMKM stockholders receive their proportionate allocation.” "This little friendly reminder worries me a bit. Will the next step be a court room? That could realistically put us in position to be on another several year wait? I sure as he!! hope not. As always, the Frizz's announcement can be picked apart to go either way, with a major dose of CYA. IMO Tony P. Flexing muscle for those still holding out IMO. Another words; If you don't cough up, screw ya. We'll see you in court and you can explain to the judge why you deleted those shares and why you can't get certs and why your CEDE balance is significantly lower than what you sold..............you imbalistic bassturds. Well maybe not the last namecalling part anyways. LOL...F4D, liking your point of view more everyday. Thanks. Linedrive
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Post by kibert79 on May 15, 2006 19:01:16 GMT -6
About what was expected from Frizzell. The "bonfide" list will be completed in the next couple of days and then the TF will inform us of what comes next. Not much of an update could be expected at this time. Also, what I have expected (and hoped for) is that it looks like those that are "bonafide" will move on to whatever the next step is, while those holding illegal shares might be on a different path than the "bonafide". Remember, the company is only responsible for the 703 billion O/S shares. I sure hope those of us that are "bonafide" don't need to wait any longer for those that didn't act as fast as they were told to (a couple of years back, UC mentioned getting certs in one of the PRs). Needless to say, Good luck to ALL CMKX shareholders.
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Post by cmkxplease on May 15, 2006 19:54:03 GMT -6
If the DTC cleared the books Why would everyone not get certs? I use two of the brokers mentioned in that letter and had no problem getting certs. So why would some have problems and others have no problems using the same broker? Makes no sense Mr. Frizzell I had no problem getting mine. My friend did have his disappear from his account. They found them put them back in and ordered his cert. He got it last week took about 2 weeks. I wonder if anyone knows anyone that is still having a problem? Yes...my mother. She has Ameritrade, as do I. Mine took four months to arrive, but I got them.
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Post by go2guy on May 15, 2006 20:13:47 GMT -6
Frizzell is saying..."Illia est jacit...." The die is cast....we go forward from here with what we have.
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Post by forevercmkx on May 15, 2006 20:49:35 GMT -6
FRIZZELL LAW FIRM 602 S. Broadway Tyler, Texas 75701 (903)595-1921 Greetings CMKX Owners Group members, Please feel free to share this update with any CMKX shareholders, especially those that may not be members of this group but have concerns about their certs or inability to obtain them. The Task Force decided some time ago that no further extensions would be granted for shareholders to obtain their certs and be included in the Entourage distribution. For months now I have volunteered my office and staff as well as the office of The Owners Group, Inc. to help collect the certs and deal with problems caused by the company’s request for this list of bona fide shareholders. I want to personally thank the staff of both of these offices (John, Kevin, Goldie, Ashley, Johnny, Eric, George and others) for their help in the company’s efforts to obtain a bona fide list of shareholders. Many of you received voice mail when you tried to call. Many of you have had difficulties getting through with your faxes. These phones simply ring non-stop from the time we get here until we leave at the end of the day. Between these offices we have 7 lines excluding the three fax lines. If your call went to voice mail or your fax reported a busy signal to you, our staff was assisting with other shareholders or the fax lines were in use. We have been in regular communication with the Transfer Agent and we have talked with representatives from many of the brokerage houses. We acknowledge that there are many shareholders who have not yet received their certs. We are fully aware that some brokers have taken a position that they do not plan to issue certificates to their shareholders in spite of their fiduciary duty to do so. We know of foreign shareholders that are being told their clearing firm for their broker cannot get certs. We know of Canadian shareholders whose accounts have never been included in the U.S. NOBO. We also know that many shareholders (some unknowingly) have had their accounts liquidated and may not be restored. There are many problems that need to be addressed. We have documented the circumstances of many shareholders who are trying to obtain their certs but have been unable to do so for various reasons. We are aware there are many shareholders who maintain shares in street name that have not requested certs. We are aware of brokers who refuse to honor the requests of their shareholders to cert their holdings. I discuss these situations with shareholders daily so I am very familiar with the reasons being given for the brokers’ refusal to issue certs. It was stated in the press release in November of 2005 that the Task Force would “use all means necessary, including bringing Federal or State court legal action to make certain all bona fide CMKM stockholders receive their proportionate allocation.” I am surprised at the actions of many brokers in the face of demands by their customers for certs on their accounts. I have been told there are brokers whose representatives have stated they will never voluntarily cert their accounts as requested by their shareholders. The Task Force was concerned this may occur when it became obvious that certain brokers were cooperating and some were not. It will be my recommendation to the Task Force that we use all means necessary to assist the shareholder in obtaining their certs. We are most concerned with the legions of Ameritrade, RBC and TD Waterhouse customers (to name a few) who have been trying since November to obtain certs for their accounts. We have seen a copy of the instructions that were sent from the DTCC to its broker participants in November of 2005 advising them of this certificate request. It is much easier to understand the concerns of those brokers who were not notified in November of 2005 and shareholders who only recently learned of the company’s request for certs. The Task Force will make allowances for those shareholders who have certs in transit or simply did not receive notice of the company’s requests a short time ago. I have said on many occasions that this Task Force is not attempting to keep shareholders from obtaining their Entourage distribution, but is trying to make sure that all shareholders of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. receive this distribution. Arrangements are being made at this time for a meeting between the Task Force and the Transfer Agent. The purpose of the meeting is to discuss the official shareholder list and to examine pending requests for certificates. The records of the Transfer Agent will be combined with the information received by the Task Force to arrive at a bona fide shareholder list. The Transfer Agent has been most helpful and cooperative with the company in our efforts to obtain a bona fide shareholder list. I have reasonable assurance from the parties that this meeting can occur this week. I have not been told when the company will issue a formal press release announcing the next step in the proceedings. Please continue to inform this office of any problems regarding your efforts to obtain your certs. Onward! Bill The following excerpt provides some interesting speculation: [glow=red,2,300]The records of the Transfer Agent will be combined with the information received by the Task Force to arrive at a bona fide shareholder list.[/glow] I interpret that to mean...' Brokers, we're gonna give you proof that you're short and in breach of your fiduciary duties.' [glow=red,2,300]The Transfer Agent has been most helpful and cooperative with the company in our efforts to obtain a bona fide shareholder list.[/glow] My interpretation....'Brokers, did you read the first part of this paragraph? We lied.....Booyah! The TA already gave us the list and we've already confirmed which of you guys have been holding out on the cert requests. How do you like your toast?' [glow=red,2,300]I have reasonable assurance from the parties that this meeting can occur this week. I have not been told when the company will issue a formal press release announcing the next step in the proceedings.[/glow] Again my take....'Brokers, meet Bubba. He's big! Look...he's smiling at you, we think he wants to be your friend! Nothing like a man who wants to totally embrace you during your state of loneliness and isolation from society. You should be very grateful for the attention you'll get from Bubba.' [glow=red,2,300]Please continue to inform this office of any problems regarding your efforts to obtain your certs.[/glow] This message only applies to investors who have made an effort to obtain certs without any success. Please keep in touch with the TF. Peace, Forevercmkx
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Post by ivory on May 15, 2006 21:20:28 GMT -6
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Post by holdnolonger on May 15, 2006 21:38:57 GMT -6
FRIZZELL LAW FIRM 602 S. Broadway Tyler, Texas 75701 (903)595-1921 Greetings CMKX Owners Group members, Please feel free to share this update with any CMKX shareholders, especially those that may not be members of this group but have concerns about their certs or inability to obtain them. The Task Force decided some time ago that no further extensions would be granted for shareholders to obtain their certs and be included in the Entourage distribution. For months now I have volunteered my office and staff as well as the office of The Owners Group, Inc. to help collect the certs and deal with problems caused by the company’s request for this list of bona fide shareholders. I want to personally thank the staff of both of these offices (John, Kevin, Goldie, Ashley, Johnny, Eric, George and others) for their help in the company’s efforts to obtain a bona fide list of shareholders. Many of you received voice mail when you tried to call. Many of you have had difficulties getting through with your faxes. These phones simply ring non-stop from the time we get here until we leave at the end of the day. Between these offices we have 7 lines excluding the three fax lines. If your call went to voice mail or your fax reported a busy signal to you, our staff was assisting with other shareholders or the fax lines were in use. We have been in regular communication with the Transfer Agent and we have talked with representatives from many of the brokerage houses. We acknowledge that there are many shareholders who have not yet received their certs. We are fully aware that some brokers have taken a position that they do not plan to issue certificates to their shareholders in spite of their fiduciary duty to do so. We know of foreign shareholders that are being told their clearing firm for their broker cannot get certs. We know of Canadian shareholders whose accounts have never been included in the U.S. NOBO. We also know that many shareholders (some unknowingly) have had their accounts liquidated and may not be restored. There are many problems that need to be addressed. We have documented the circumstances of many shareholders who are trying to obtain their certs but have been unable to do so for various reasons. We are aware there are many shareholders who maintain shares in street name that have not requested certs. We are aware of brokers who refuse to honor the requests of their shareholders to cert their holdings. I discuss these situations with shareholders daily so I am very familiar with the reasons being given for the brokers’ refusal to issue certs. It was stated in the press release in November of 2005 that the Task Force would “use all means necessary, including bringing Federal or State court legal action to make certain all bona fide CMKM stockholders receive their proportionate allocation.” I am surprised at the actions of many brokers in the face of demands by their customers for certs on their accounts. I have been told there are brokers whose representatives have stated they will never voluntarily cert their accounts as requested by their shareholders. The Task Force was concerned this may occur when it became obvious that certain brokers were cooperating and some were not. It will be my recommendation to the Task Force that we use all means necessary to assist the shareholder in obtaining their certs. We are most concerned with the legions of Ameritrade, RBC and TD Waterhouse customers (to name a few) who have been trying since November to obtain certs for their accounts. We have seen a copy of the instructions that were sent from the DTCC to its broker participants in November of 2005 advising them of this certificate request. It is much easier to understand the concerns of those brokers who were not notified in November of 2005 and shareholders who only recently learned of the company’s request for certs. The Task Force will make allowances for those shareholders who have certs in transit or simply did not receive notice of the company’s requests a short time ago. I have said on many occasions that this Task Force is not attempting to keep shareholders from obtaining their Entourage distribution, but is trying to make sure that all shareholders of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. receive this distribution. Arrangements are being made at this time for a meeting between the Task Force and the Transfer Agent. The purpose of the meeting is to discuss the official shareholder list and to examine pending requests for certificates. The records of the Transfer Agent will be combined with the information received by the Task Force to arrive at a bona fide shareholder list. The Transfer Agent has been most helpful and cooperative with the company in our efforts to obtain a bona fide shareholder list. I have reasonable assurance from the parties that this meeting can occur this week. I have not been told when the company will issue a formal press release announcing the next step in the proceedings. Please continue to inform this office of any problems regarding your efforts to obtain your certs. Onward! Bill The following excerpt provides some interesting speculation: [glow=red,2,300]The records of the Transfer Agent will be combined with the information received by the Task Force to arrive at a bona fide shareholder list.[/glow] I interpret that to mean...' Brokers, we're gonna give you proof that you're short and in breach of your fiduciary duties.' [glow=red,2,300]The Transfer Agent has been most helpful and cooperative with the company in our efforts to obtain a bona fide shareholder list.[/glow] My interpretation....'Brokers, did you read the first part of this paragraph? We lied.....Booyah! The TA already gave us the list and we've already confirmed which of you guys have been holding out on the cert requests. How do you like your toast?' [glow=red,2,300]I have reasonable assurance from the parties that this meeting can occur this week. I have not been told when the company will issue a formal press release announcing the next step in the proceedings.[/glow] Again my take....'Brokers, meet Bubba. He's big! Look...he's smiling at you, we think he wants to be your friend! Nothing like a man who wants to totally embrace you during your state of loneliness and isolation from society. You should be very grateful for the attention you'll get from Bubba.' [glow=red,2,300]Please continue to inform this office of any problems regarding your efforts to obtain your certs.[/glow] This message only applies to investors who have made an effort to obtain certs without any success. Please keep in touch with the TF. Peace, Forevercmkx
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Post by Duc n Altum on May 15, 2006 22:18:32 GMT -6
Are these the 3 holdouts???: We are most concerned with the legions of Ameritrade, RBC and TD Waterhouse customers (to name a few) who have been trying since November to obtain certs for their accounts. Wasn't it said way back that TD Waterhouse had sold over 690 billion shares to shareholders, themselves!! And wasn't it said at some point that there was a total of 27 market makers that sold CMKX? So one company TD Waterhouse, was 13 billion shares shy of the outstanding shares themselves! No wonder they held out because we would of hit that apocalyptic number in no time if they had covered!! I am not in favor of them not covering but that amount of shares, I am sure that that is a very tough bill to pay! So I could see TD Waterhouse being one of the three!!
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Post by Duc n Altum on May 15, 2006 22:20:29 GMT -6
I don't see money this week if the list is not complete. Wasn't the rumor three tiers of payment? 1-Insiders 2-Bona fide shareholders (us) 3-Non-certed shareholders. Well the first two tiers can be paid!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Duc n Altum on May 15, 2006 22:27:10 GMT -6
If the DTC cleared the books Why would everyone not get certs? I use two of the brokers mentioned in that letter and had no problem getting certs. So why would some have problems and others have no problems using the same broker? Makes no sense Mr. Frizzell I know of one person who is trying to get their cert for a Roth IRA of 235 thousand shares and they keep playing with her!! She was on the phone for an hour and 20 minutes with her brokerage firm and they were feeding her lies except one lady who worked there and she even admitted to my mom that " SOMETHING IS VERY FISHY WITH THIS!" She paid for her cert on April 23 third and they told her that she would be receiving her cert with in 5 days!! I turns out 12 days later they kept avoiding her and she then found out they did not even report her order to the TA! SOMETHING VERY FISHY INDEED!! Might be folks with shares in IRAs.
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Post by Duc n Altum on May 15, 2006 22:29:47 GMT -6
remember this from nova.. Novaleo was told from her sources that the final money transfer will come from the final holdouts by the close of business tomorrow. There will be no pr's until after that transfer. If the money isn't transferred tomorrow it will be paid from all the bonuses of all the brokerage houses and if not, the brokerages will not be in business on tuesday morning. Thanks TRAMP!!
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Post by funado on May 15, 2006 22:31:05 GMT -6
hmmm......interesting "the Frizz" made no efforts this time to dispell any rumor(s)................. Hey Mike, Good catch! I knew there was something different about this update. Frizz always puts somethink in there to quash the rumors. This time, no quashing, even though the rumors over the last few weeks have reached new limits of excitement. I take that to be a very good sign. Funado
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Post by Duc n Altum on May 15, 2006 22:33:10 GMT -6
its like a staged theatre piece .. frizz adresses the problems and the company announces the solution Interesting point Wombat!! Catch the bad guys off guard possibly!!
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Post by Duc n Altum on May 15, 2006 22:34:28 GMT -6
Imagine that. Some brokers can't and/or are refusing to get certs for their clients. Hmmmmmmmmm. Funny that is happening. I wonder why. Pay special attention to only one thing in this pr folks. Nothing else is important in it right now except this; I have not been told when the company will issue a formal press release announcing the next step in the proceedings.
And I only have ONE comment. Please don't send pm's. Funtime has begun, we've won". nuff said. If you don't like this pr, "sumtins wong". I hope that next step is MONEY!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Duc n Altum on May 15, 2006 22:36:47 GMT -6
The Entourage distribution will never happen, remember? So, what are you waiting for? Now the cancellation has to get a legal ground in a form of "Inability to account for all CMKX shareholders makes it impossible to distribute the Entourage shares without incurring a legal liability... " and so on. Exactly my thought!! I agree!
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Post by bucksnort on May 16, 2006 5:06:03 GMT -6
"We are most concerned with the legions of Ameritrade, RBC and TD Waterhouse customers (to name a few) who have been trying since November to obtain certs for their accounts."Security Position ReportAmeritrade = 4,175,625,803 RBC/DOMN = 760,097,272 TD Water = 515,401,272 "I have said on many occasions that this Task Force is not attempting to keep shareholders from obtaining their Entourage distribution, but is trying to make sure that all shareholders of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. receive this distribution."This needed to be said again?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2006 5:42:37 GMT -6
oh, there he is...popeye...i guess this thread is over LOL
but i will add one last thing even tho i know this thread already has popeye's kiss of death on it...LOL
i have one friend who never did get her cert...the old ira runaround...long story, but it really makes me sad...this was someone who really could use a break...i sure hope something works out in her favor. and for all those who feel between the cracks.
so how's it going my popeye friend? how much longer you think this thread has with both of us here at the end??? that has gotta be a crushing blow for any thread!!!
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Post by rrcmdrbob on May 16, 2006 6:14:17 GMT -6
WHY ISN'T THIS UP DATE TO ALL SHAREHOLDERS FROM THE TASK FORCE INSTEAD OF FROM THE OWNERS GROUP TO SOME OF THE SHAREHOLDERS.
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Post by climbsolo on May 16, 2006 7:09:20 GMT -6
remember this from nova.. If the money isn't transferred tomorrow it will be paid from all the bonuses of all the brokerage houses and if not, the brokerages will not be in business on tuesday morning. It is now Tuesday morning, please tell us the names of the brokerages that are no longer in business.
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Post by kibert79 on May 16, 2006 7:15:50 GMT -6
If the DTC cleared the books Why would everyone not get certs? I use two of the brokers mentioned in that letter and had no problem getting certs. So why would some have problems and others have no problems using the same broker? Makes no sense Mr. Frizzell Makes perfect sense......THERE ARE BILLIONS OF NSS SHARES!
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