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Post by supersleuth on Oct 25, 2006 21:59:30 GMT -6
[glow=red,2,300] " I know of no lawsuit nor legal action that can be taken which would cause a Judge somewhere to order that the general public should stop posting lies or unfounded rumors on message boards. I am not trying to be facetious or sarcastic in saying this. There is simply no legal process that I am aware of which can be invoked to stop this nonsense. "[/glow] I think there should be some law for this. Greetings! I am not so sure that I would like the courts to restrict public conversation on a public forum. There are legal processes that an offending party can take but not a process to stop public remarks or opinions unless of course a riotous or statement is made to incite danger such as yelling fire, fire, fire in a crowded room when there is no fire. So public remarks and opinions are just that, publlic opinions and remarks. I don't feel like being censured or told I cannot express my opinion. JMJ, SuperSleuth
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Post by moontraveler on Oct 25, 2006 22:44:17 GMT -6
Um, slander and liable come to mind "I know of no lawsuit nor legal action that can be taken which would cause a Judge somewhere to order that the general public should stop posting lies or unfounded rumors on message boards."Dear CMKX Shareholders, You have not received any updates of late because I am in receipt of no information to give you. Kevin West is very much aware that you are in need of information and I know if he were able to give you information he would do so. I do not know why he cannot respond to you. It is my understanding that the interpleader is being drafted and it will be filed sooner than later. I have been given no time schedule. I decided to do this brief update because a few board posters have been having quite a time publishing false information and involving me by name in their posts. It has been reported that I have been involved in some settlement negotiations and that I have orchestrated some deal involving tax free benefits. There is absolutely no truth to these rumors. The creator of these rumors has committed a terrible disservice to his or her fellow shareholders by disseminating false information. The connection of these rumors to actions that I have allegedly taken personally is not only false but may subject someone to legal liability if it was proven that such information was disseminated maliciously. The reasons for this long period of no information are unknown to me. If you want to speculate that there is a problem getting some settlement deal worked out, feel free to think that way. I am aware of no facts that will support such a thought process. I hope for all the shareholders (myself included) that there is something going on that is beneficial to us. It is simply an outright lie for someone to state that I have been personally involved in such negotiations, when I have not be so involved. Unfortunately, these type of rumors sometimes cause people to make buying or selling decisions even though this stock is not a publicly traded stock. I have received several well intentioned emails from shareholders suggesting that I or the company should take some legal action and direct that cease and desist orders be put in place to stop such nonsense. I do not represent the company nor can I speak for their intentions in this regard. I know of no lawsuit nor legal action that can be taken which would cause a Judge somewhere to order that the general public should stop posting lies or unfounded rumors on message boards. I am not trying to be facetious or sarcastic in saying this. There is simply no legal process that I am aware of which can be invoked to stop this nonsense. I wish I had actual information to impart to you. I will continue to ask Urban and Kevin to followup with their last press release and begin to let you know what is going on with the company. Best Regards, Onward, Bill
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Post by Duc n Altum on Oct 26, 2006 1:27:41 GMT -6
Dear CMKX Shareholders, You have not received any updates of late because I am in receipt of no information to give you. Kevin West is very much aware that you are in need of information and I know if he were able to give you information he would do so. I do not know why he cannot respond to you. It is my understanding that the interpleader is being drafted and it will be filed sooner than later. I have been given no time schedule. I decided to do this brief update because a few board posters have been having quite a time publishing false information and involving me by name in their posts. It has been reported that I have been involved in some settlement negotiations and that I have orchestrated some deal involving tax free benefits. There is absolutely no truth to these rumors. The creator of these rumors has committed a terrible disservice to his or her fellow shareholders by disseminating false information. The connection of these rumors to actions that I have allegedly taken personally is not only false but may subject someone to legal liability if it was proven that such information was disseminated maliciously. The reasons for this long period of no information are unknown to me. [glow=red,2,300] If you want to speculate that there is a problem getting some settlement deal worked out, feel free to think that way. I am aware of no facts that will support such a thought process. [/glow] I hope for all the shareholders (myself included) that there is something going on that is beneficial to us. It is simply an outright lie for someone to state that I have been personally involved in such negotiations, when I have not be so involved. Unfortunately, these type of rumors sometimes cause people to make buying or selling decisions even though this stock is not a publicly traded stock. I have received several well intentioned emails from shareholders suggesting that I or the company should take some legal action and direct that cease and desist orders be put in place to stop such nonsense. I do not represent the company nor can I speak for their intentions in this regard. I know of no lawsuit nor legal action that can be taken which would cause a Judge somewhere to order that the general public should stop posting lies or unfounded rumors on message boards. I am not trying to be facetious or sarcastic in saying this. There is simply no legal process that I am aware of which can be invoked to stop this nonsense. I wish I had actual information to impart to you. I will continue to ask Urban and Kevin to followup with their last press release and begin to let you know what is going on with the company. Best Regards, Onward, Bill " If you want to speculate that there is a problem getting some settlement deal worked out, feel free to think that way. I am aware of no facts that will support such a thought process."The most important part of this update! Mr.Frizzell, are you giving a hint to us, as you did with us about the Sandia Group way back when you asked us if there was anyone that has heard of them because of all their hits on the task force website! Just to give us a hint of who was on our side! Thank you again, Mr. Frizzell for such an update!
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Post by sircharles on Oct 26, 2006 3:07:07 GMT -6
Who got this update? I received all previous updates by Frizzell but never got this one ... did anyone else here get this update?
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Post by reubens on Oct 26, 2006 4:49:26 GMT -6
I wait for the ending of this book to find out who are the good guys, and who are the bad guys. Until I read the last page I will hold my opinion, but once I read it, I will then decide whether or not to embark upon civil suits to stop the bad guys from receiving any benefits they have acquired through their deceits.
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Post by lubever on Oct 26, 2006 5:02:15 GMT -6
WTH to believe these days? Is someone lying or just giving misinformation? Did IBM go to Frizz and tell him to write a very strong denial in lawyer language? Are the Belgians lying and got caught in a big one this time? They have to know he is/was shareholder attorney and would communicate with us. Maybe the Belgians let the cat out of the bag too quick and Frizz had to go into crisis management mode with a very strongly worded communication. Maybe the sky is not really blue. I am really very confused at this point and just hope and pray that by November 7 we will know what is going on and maybe have money coming. What is really terrible is I have let this affect other areas of my life. That's my question. Why would the Belgians say they talked to Frizz when they know anyone here could verify it. Strange.
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Post by sircharles on Oct 26, 2006 5:12:25 GMT -6
WTH to believe these days? Is someone lying or just giving misinformation? Did IBM go to Frizz and tell him to write a very strong denial in lawyer language? Are the Belgians lying and got caught in a big one this time? They have to know he is/was shareholder attorney and would communicate with us. Maybe the Belgians let the cat out of the bag too quick and Frizz had to go into crisis management mode with a very strongly worded communication. Maybe the sky is not really blue. I am really very confused at this point and just hope and pray that by November 7 we will know what is going on and maybe have money coming. What is really terrible is I have let this affect other areas of my life. That's my question. Why would the Belgians say they talked to Frizz when they know anyone here could verify it. Strange. I don't think anyone cares ... they're just happy they can bash mano ... as usuall What is so special about mano stating he called Frizzell to apologize? Countless lies are spread on a daily bases on CMKX, UC and anyone involved. Remember the rumor about UC being sued ... ? Why would Frizzell react on a statement from someone who called to apologize and not to the numerous slanderous remarks on UC? Mano is spreading his stuff for many months without any reaction from Frizzell and now he reacts ... in a rather explicit way? Why now and not on all the other stuff Mano has been saying?
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Post by roughcut on Oct 26, 2006 6:38:50 GMT -6
Who got this update? I received all previous updates by Frizzell but never got this one ... did anyone else here get this update? I'm like you. I have received all of the other ones but not this one. I don't what it means, if anything.
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Post by lana41092 on Oct 26, 2006 6:42:33 GMT -6
Probably because Mano, for the first time, said Frizzell did something that was an out and out falsehood. Lana That's my question. Why would the Belgians say they talked to Frizz when they know anyone here could verify it. Strange. I don't think anyone cares ... they're just happy they can bash mano ... as usuall What is so special about mano stating he called Frizzell to apologize? Countless lies are spread on a daily bases on CMKX, UC and anyone involved. Remember the rumor about UC being sued ... ? Why would Frizzell react on a statement from someone who called to apologize and not to the numerous slanderous remarks on UC? Mano is spreading his stuff for many months without any reaction from Frizzell and now he reacts ... in a rather explicit way? Why now and not on all the other stuff Mano has been saying?
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Post by evenup on Oct 26, 2006 6:55:10 GMT -6
I don't know Frizzel or Mano personally, but I do know Frizzel is a lawyer.
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Post by sircharles on Oct 26, 2006 7:06:58 GMT -6
Probably because Mano, for the first time, said Frizzell did something that was an out and out falsehood. Lana Huh? Have you ever read some of the stuff that is posted on RB or the 666 board? Compared to those posts I really wonder why the need to send out an update ... If Frizzell wants to correct every lie that was ever spread on CMKX he has a huge task in front of him ... He basicaly is calling mano a ... why now and on the subject of the phone call? Does this mean mano was telling the truth on all his previous statements? If mano is such a why not confront him months ago? Didn't we have several posts by people claiming to talk to Frizzell or receiving emails over the last few months?
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Post by fishing4diamonds on Oct 26, 2006 7:18:27 GMT -6
Probably because Mano, for the first time, said Frizzell did something that was an out and out falsehood. Lana Huh? Have you ever read some of the stuff that is posted on RB or the 666 board? Compared to those posts I really wonder why the need to send out an update ... If Frizzell wants to correct every lie that was ever spread on CMKX he has a huge task in front of him ... He basicaly is calling mano a ... why now and on the subject of the phone call? Does this mean mano was telling the truth on all his previous statements? If mano is such a why not confront him months ago? Didn't we have several posts by people claiming to talk to Frizzell or receiving emails over the last few months? Maybe because of all the shares that are still being bought and sold off and Frizzell knows (through the T/A) who's getting those shares for .00025. I don't know if the bad guys are getting those shares, but if they are; it's one helluva cheap cover and taking money out of our pockets. In the meantime, somebody's getting rich as well off of our company while WE have to wait. f4d~
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Post by sircharles on Oct 26, 2006 7:28:07 GMT -6
Maybe because of all the shares that are still being bought and sold off and Frizzell knows (through the T/A) who's getting those shares for .00025. I don't know if the bad guys are getting those shares, but if they are; it's one helluva cheap cover and taking money out of our pockets. In the meantime, somebody's getting rich as well off of our company while WE have to wait. f4d~ Could be ... but didn't delidog clear this with the SEC? I read posts claiming his actions were legit. If Frizzell thinks mano is selling or buying illegally he should go through the proper channels and not launch a public execution as he did with his update. Besides, what is stopping us from doing the same? It seems to be legal so anyone could do it. I still do not really understand what went on for the OG update to be sent out ... no way this is about a phone call that might have taken place. What does Bill have to loose when mano claims he talked to him? As far as I see mano never claimed to receive any inside stuff on CMKX through that phone call or any other contact with bill.
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Post by fishing4diamonds on Oct 26, 2006 7:32:05 GMT -6
Maybe because of all the shares that are still being bought and sold off and Frizzell knows (through the T/A) who's getting those shares for .00025. I don't know if the bad guys are getting those shares, but if they are; it's one helluva cheap cover and taking money out of our pockets. In the meantime, somebody's getting rich as well off of our company while WE have to wait. f4d~ Could be ... but didn't delidog clear this with the SEC? I read posts claiming his actions were legit. If Frizzell thinks mano is selling or buying illegally he should go through the proper channels and not launch a public execution as he did with his update. Besides, what is stopping us from doing the same? It seems to be legal so anyone could do it. I still do not really understand what went on for the OG update to be sent out ... no way this is about a phone call that might have taken place. What does Bill have to loose when mano claims he talked to him? As far as I see mano never claimed to receive any inside stuff on CMKX through that phone call or any other contact with bill. I don't have a link and I don't have proof, but have received several pm's about Deli over the past several months talking about the SEC going after him. Last one was that he had an attorney and the attorney's approach was that it's ok, because Deli wasn't charging "trading" fees. But what I've heard is that the SEC IS going at him. Guess we'll wait and see...........if we ever find out at all. f4d~
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Post by oldman on Oct 26, 2006 7:45:49 GMT -6
I was under the impression that Deli was selling with UC's blessing?
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Post by howertfe on Oct 26, 2006 8:12:23 GMT -6
Do you all seriously believe that the "letter" from "Bill" that audreyhepburn wrote on this board is legit? He is an attorney, therefore, his grammar leads to a more professional prose than what was written in that "letter". Some people tend to believe EVERYTHING that they read. While others, dissect it to find the "truth". Please don't believe everything you read. As an attorney, Bill will not respond one way or the other to ANY "rumors". That is not an attorney's style. This is just someone's attempt to cast more doubt in everyones mind. That is really sad, especially when we are all in this together. What will be, will be, and no one can change that! Best wishes to you all and keep hope alive!!!
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Post by ejagacki on Oct 26, 2006 8:14:26 GMT -6
Howertfe:
The letter is authentic.
I received a copy directly from CMKXOWNERSGROUP, of which I am a member, as are many on this board.
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Post by fishing4diamonds on Oct 26, 2006 8:16:38 GMT -6
Do you all seriously believe that the "letter" from "Bill" that audreyhepburn wrote on this board is legit? He is an attorney, therefore, his grammar leads to a more professional prose than what was written in that "letter". Some people tend to believe EVERYTHING that they read. While others, dissect it to find the "truth". Please don't believe everything you read. As an attorney, Bill will not respond one way or the other to ANY "rumors". That is not an attorney's style. This is just someone's attempt to cast more doubt in everyones mind. That is really sad, especially when we are all in this together. What will be, will be, and no one can change that! Best wishes to you all and keep hope alive!!! The letter came to all bona fide shareholders via email.
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Post by howertfe on Oct 26, 2006 8:23:11 GMT -6
Well, I am a bona fide sharehold and a member of the CMKXSHAREHOLDERS group and I didn't receive an email. Maybe they don't have my new email address. Does anyone know how I can send them my new email address?
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Post by ejagacki on Oct 26, 2006 8:25:31 GMT -6
howertfe:
This is the "sending" email address.
Try sending it there... updates@cmkxownersgroup.com
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Post by wag on Oct 26, 2006 8:27:47 GMT -6
I need to start a Deli-Hot Dog stand as Deli-Dog must do pretty well to enable him to purchase billions of shares CMKX. Turn around and help his fellow man get a piece of the CMKX at bargain prices of .00025. Huh? Have you ever read some of the stuff that is posted on RB or the 666 board? Compared to those posts I really wonder why the need to send out an update ... If Frizzell wants to correct every lie that was ever spread on CMKX he has a huge task in front of him ... He basicaly is calling mano a ... why now and on the subject of the phone call? Does this mean mano was telling the truth on all his previous statements? If mano is such a why not confront him months ago? Didn't we have several posts by people claiming to talk to Frizzell or receiving emails over the last few months? Maybe because of all the shares that are still being bought and sold off and Frizzell knows (through the T/A) who's getting those shares for .00025. I don't know if the bad guys are getting those shares, but if they are; it's one helluva cheap cover and taking money out of our pockets. In the meantime, somebody's getting rich as well off of our company while WE have to wait. f4d~
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Post by howertfe on Oct 26, 2006 8:28:23 GMT -6
Thanks for the info ejagacki. I'll get right on that! Appreciate the help!
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Post by sandy32541 on Oct 26, 2006 8:29:45 GMT -6
Do you all seriously believe that the "letter" from "Bill" that audreyhepburn wrote on this board is legit? He is an attorney, therefore, his grammar leads to a more professional prose than what was written in that "letter". Some people tend to believe EVERYTHING that they read. While others, dissect it to find the "truth". Please don't believe everything you read. As an attorney, Bill will not respond one way or the other to ANY "rumors". That is not an attorney's style. This is just someone's attempt to cast more doubt in everyones mind. That is really sad, especially when we are all in this together. What will be, will be, and no one can change that! Best wishes to you all and keep hope alive!!! The letter came to all bona fide shareholders via email. I'm not questioning whether the update is real or not, I believe it is, but I did not recieve it in a email, FWIW.
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Post by fishing4diamonds on Oct 26, 2006 8:44:20 GMT -6
The letter came to all bona fide shareholders via email. I'm not questioning whether the update is real or not, I believe it is, but I did not recieve it in a email, FWIW. sandy, email the TF and make sure you get on the list. f4d~
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Post by singer on Oct 26, 2006 8:46:23 GMT -6
I got it but thought because I joined the first OG, not because I'm bona fide.
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