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Post by whetstone on Mar 23, 2006 16:32:02 GMT -6
help me out here. what purpose would pulling certs for usca serve? I wouldn't pull certs until it's requested. A trickle of requests doesn't make a statement. But if IBM says pull the certs and 60000 of us request certs... well... we know how much the brokers like that.
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Post by hermannmaier0 on Mar 23, 2006 17:30:49 GMT -6
lets see if gemm gets some SEC attention.
maybe gemm and usca will have to go away.
Second CIM divi supposedly used DTCC ratio, so every cmkx share in any account (FTD or settled) should have recieved a real CIM dividend. Meaning CIM should not have had the NSS transposed into it. IMO.
EDIT>>>>Except for the off tape trades...oh.....oops
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Post by bygsky on Mar 23, 2006 17:36:25 GMT -6
USCA is as short as CMKX because of the divies. This could be a manuever to wipe out the short (with CMKX approval), include them on the settlement, and merge them into CIM. We still own something like half of USCA. Look for Gemm to go down next. They are just as short. For a settlement, all of these shorts have to be cleaned up. This is a discreet way of handling it. Quick revocations on GEMM and USCA. Settlement. Reverse merge and/or split. IPO. Could all be part of the plam. I can't believe I'm spinning this. I hate myself. I'll be over it SSssOOoonnNN. I was just coming on to say something like this.... Why the civil case and not criminal? determinations in civil cases I believe often have stipulations that are hidden from public view and usually mean money changing hands VS criminal. This could be part of the settlement deal to make the divies go away......
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Post by suzyq on Mar 23, 2006 17:48:47 GMT -6
whetstone, That was my first thought also...
another bargaining chip...
J, FWIW, we got ucad certs a lomg time ago.
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Post by swordfish168 on Mar 23, 2006 21:43:45 GMT -6
CMXX stops trading and a certificate pull is enacted. All our restricted shares become non trading companies in the near future. GEMM / USCA SGGM which is owned by CMKX stops trading and nothing is herd from. CIM is private company and cannot trade. Either a brilliant master plan or major screw - time will tell ! best, mike @swordfish168@ p.s. If as many believe - the Vegas party was to announce a roll up into USCA which the SEC said "NO" - then maybe a private roll up is somehow being planned. All the companies would have to stop trading in the near future for this to happen
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Post by ready4apr on Mar 23, 2006 22:37:53 GMT -6
The question I have is why are our shares still restricted? I thought they were only restricted for one year. Am I wrong? None of this makes sense. This whole thing is a big fat mess. No 2nd GEMM divies either. What's the problem boyz? Why can't I sell the markers in my account, hmmm? Just venting
Laurie
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Post by dgjtex on Mar 23, 2006 22:46:40 GMT -6
USCA is as short as CMKX because of the divies. This could be a manuever to wipe out the short (with CMKX approval), include them on the settlement, and merge them into CIM. We still own something like half of USCA. Look for Gemm to go down next. They are just as short. For a settlement, all of these shorts have to be cleaned up. This is a discreet way of handling it. Quick revocations on GEMM and USCA. Settlement. Reverse merge and/or split. IPO. Could all be part of the plam. I can't believe I'm spinning this. I hate myself. I'll be over it SSssOOoonnNN. Plam..i've heard that somewhere!
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Post by neba on Mar 24, 2006 6:49:59 GMT -6
Gemm might be alittle more difficult to screw by the Sec. with their present involvement with Enterouge. ( isn't it GEMM with the uranium claims?)
(Never mind. It's United Carrina. SORRY.)
It is possible that the Sec is pressuring us ( CMKX) with these maneuvers against the Junior partners.
" IF you continue with the Cert pull we will crush the rest of them as well."
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Post by popodaddy on Mar 24, 2006 18:09:47 GMT -6
Glad I sold most of my USCA and bought CMKX. popo
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