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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2006 23:32:52 GMT -6
Not for a minute, do I believe that Maheu would tolerate a non responsive lawyer.
And yes, I believe Maheu is still driving this boat.
So, for every call that gets fielded, every email that gets responded to. Those are billable hours, that just got billed to our company.
What could it hurt?
I do not personally know Moran's billing policies. But, I have three friends who are lawyers and every one of them bills by the minute.
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Post by portrush on Dec 18, 2006 23:42:01 GMT -6
As a shareholder of the company, I am part owner. So is every other shareholder. Moran works for the company...the company of shareholders. Billable hours are a cost of doing business. I don't care if he makes $10,000 per hour, his assistants don't. Moreover, he likely wouldn't take the time to read all of them any way. But it will register with him...the owners of the company would simply like to know what is going on. Hey, if he wants to...he can bill me for reading my letter. pr
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Post by blue32 on Dec 18, 2006 23:45:39 GMT -6
In my experience, there is only one reason an attorney will respond to anything, and that is because they have to.
I understand the point of the effort, and although some small effect my be accomplished, it is not what these guys respond to.
~blue
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2006 23:50:09 GMT -6
No, his assistants don't, but they do likely get billed at an office overhead rate equivalent to a good chunk of what Moran himself bills for.
You are either missing or ignoring the point that a herd of folks trampling the doors of our company's attorney is simply make work for our attorney.
If this were really about finding out what his intentions are and what Moran will tell you, it does not require a herd of sheeple in a denial of service style attack on our lawyer. You or Dr D or whomever could have very easily gotten a dozen friends to write and/or call to send a message and hopefully get an answer.
I believe the call to arms in this matter is naive and disingenuous at best.
As I have already stated, Moran is in a client confidentiality relationship with cmkx management. Not cmkx shareholders. There is a significant difference. A difference that just might include him not responding one iota to any inquiries we make.
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Post by blue32 on Dec 18, 2006 23:56:08 GMT -6
Here is a post from Kranker on PB70. I hope he doesn't mind me posting this here. ----------------------------------------------- How hard is it to get a link for this post? LOL Without a link, it could get moved to OT or deleted. Assume this was written by Dr. D for a moment, I suppose. We are at the same point we were a year ago. If you think the company is trying to screw you, do something about it or fold. While calling the attorney may or may not achieve anything, consider this: If you think the company is screwing you, calling the company attorney is not going to do anything to resolve that. If the company is out to screw us, they will. You either trust the company, now to include Kevin West will do what is in our best interest, or you don't. All this jumping up and down is making me dizzy. [image] As usual, we must all make our own decisions. Calling the attorney will not change anything the company has directed the attorney to execute or not (Do you think the attorney is going to fold because his phone is ringing a lot of times? LOL) The attorney has his orders, and we did not write them, nor pay him. However, with this in mind, I do not see what it can hurt if you need to take your frustrations out by calling a phone where nobody of relevant knowledge will answer, or emailing an address where it will be directed to the recycle bin. If you think you need to visit the office, make sure the LVPD isn't filming an episode of "COPS", unless you wanna be a movie star. [image] ------------------------------------------------------------- With respect to the new cert rule to apply in Jan 2007 and then 2008 re: DRS probably does not apply here IMO, as CMKX can do whatever they want with the certs anyway (RS this stock down to 1 share, give us more dividends to achieve holdings in reporting companies without regard for certs registered under the act, make us trillionaires, or disappear like so many others, blah blah blah etc.) As usual, it is your decision. -k cmkxunitedforum.proboards70.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1166488363&page=1
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Post by portrush on Dec 18, 2006 23:56:12 GMT -6
Brig, Your points are well stated and worth considering. Thank you. Your reference to sheeple is condescending and disrespectful, not to mention pious and tiresome. Take a break. pr
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Post by bobbideniro on Dec 19, 2006 10:21:17 GMT -6
pootsa
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Post by macollie on Dec 19, 2006 10:26:21 GMT -6
there is absolutely reason to question...EVERYTHING. will this benefit us any by contacting moran? i don't know.
but to sit idly by and day dream about a package coming to the door with a check for $1.50 per share is absurd.
we can at least try to find out if the interplead has been completed. if it has been filed and if not, why not. we are shareholders, therefore need to be reckon with. and this is NOT a mob mentality. i am tired of waiting around, believing in the conspiracy theory and that all is well when we have yet to hear from the company.
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Post by whynotdiamonds on Dec 19, 2006 10:33:22 GMT -6
It is really not so funny to see this happening all over again. Exactly the same as the Cert Pull. Remember? Self-proclaimed "Gurus" telling us NOT to pull our Certs. I'm calling, faxing and e-mailing until I see something change or the Company tells me to stop. IT'S MY MONEY - - - I'VE DECIDED - - -Thanks anyway, Brig.
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Post by xtremeriches on Dec 19, 2006 10:37:39 GMT -6
The squeeky wheel gets the grease.
I think the possibilities of the company letting us know what is going on increases by us making noise. No it may not cause them to change their course of action, but it may cause them to think twice about what they are doing and say "hey we better give the troops something here or this could get ugly"
If we remain silent they may think we don't need or want anything informational wise.
The squeeky wheel gets the grease.
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Post by cruiser11 on Dec 19, 2006 10:38:55 GMT -6
If we wait, how long must we wait before acting?
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Post by macollie on Dec 19, 2006 10:40:18 GMT -6
It is really not so funny to see this happening all over again. Exactly the same as the Cert Pull. Remember? Self-proclaimed "Gurus" telling us NOT to pull our Certs. I'm calling, faxing and e-mailing until I see something change or the Company tells me to stop. IT'S MY MONEY - - - I'VE DECIDED - - -Thanks anyway, Brig. History does have a way of repeating itself. Good point ICE
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Post by pjannetto on Dec 19, 2006 10:52:18 GMT -6
It is really not so funny to see this happening all over again. Exactly the same as the Cert Pull. Remember? Self-proclaimed "Gurus" telling us NOT to pull our Certs. I'm calling, faxing and e-mailing until I see something change or the Company tells me to stop. IT'S MY MONEY - - - I'VE DECIDED - - -Thanks anyway, Brig. Very well said!
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Post by vcalv on Dec 19, 2006 11:06:24 GMT -6
Hey Brig, if you want to continue to be complacent with regards to cmkx then go ahead. Personally, I feel it is time for action because we have sat idle long enough. We have waited way too long for any type of communication from our so called company. It is time we look for answers rather than waiting for them.
GLTA
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Post by allforanm on Dec 19, 2006 11:27:50 GMT -6
Do you people honestly think that Dr. Diamond is doing this because he feels like it? Give me a friggen break. It's obvious someone from the company asked him to relay this to us. Dr. D is someone I trust, unlike some of the ding a lings on this board. My feelings exactly. He may have even talked to Kevin. But does Kevin know everything that is going on? I think IBM is still pulling the strings. There is a bigger battle going on. IMO
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Post by wag on Dec 19, 2006 11:38:33 GMT -6
You posted earlier about Maheu from May 2005-That was about a year and half ago. The TF has been dissolved and you have no evidence to support Maheu is still involved. You state CMKM is going to get billed for reading e-mails, answering phones etc.. Come on do you really believe what you're writing? Ever heard of a Red Herring- Not for a minute, do I believe that Maheu would tolerate a non responsive lawyer. And yes, I believe Maheu is still driving this boat. So, for every call that gets fielded, every email that gets responded to. Those are billable hours, that just got billed to our company. What could it hurt? I do not personally know Moran's billing policies. But, I have three friends who are lawyers and every one of them bills by the minute.
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Post by holdnolonger on Dec 19, 2006 12:23:28 GMT -6
I'm with Brig on this only because in my heart felt opion that the company has did so much for us already but most don't even appreciate the shareholders being in the ballgame at this point, some feel selfish and owed something, I only hope through the efforts our team has lead us we come out on top. My only concern here is by calling Moran and hounding him it forces CMKX to play its hand early and we come up short. All the efforts of past ruined. Has anyone thought of that? Anyway its already done. I just hope for the best is all I can do at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2006 12:59:08 GMT -6
Just for the record, I was for the cert pull. In fact, the revocation and subsequent cert pull was my first ever prediction.
And as always with rare exception, I do not make predictions. It is my lot in life to evaluate, analyze and theorize. A never ending search for the big picture.
I realize there are many chomping at the bit to act.
Unlike others, I do not fail to see the irony that folks who are calling me a wannabe guru are chomping at the bit to follow another internet poster, one who six months ago, essentially disappeared from the scene when his hallowed word and dd did not pan out.
But hey, go for it. Because regardless of your efforts, I'm confident we will still win.
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Post by sokr61 on Dec 19, 2006 13:09:37 GMT -6
It is my lot in life to evaluate, analyze and theorize. A never ending search for the big picture. we have a lot in common my friend....
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Post by cmkxbeliever on Dec 19, 2006 13:15:02 GMT -6
Do you people honestly think that Dr. Diamond is doing this because he feels like it? Give me a friggen break. It's obvious someone from the company asked him to relay this to us. Dr. D is someone I trust, unlike some of the ding a lings on this board. from PT International : natrby: I will tell what I was told,as many of you know Dr.D and I have been friends for 20 years,He was contacted and was asked to get the shareholders to rally and call Moran and ask why the interpleader has not been filed. natrby: I do not know who contacted him but I trust Dr.D he just does not put things like this out.
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Post by texastea on Dec 19, 2006 13:26:18 GMT -6
Do you people honestly think that Dr. Diamond is doing this because he feels like it? Give me a friggen break. It's obvious someone from the company asked him to relay this to us. Dr. D is someone I trust, unlike some of the ding a lings on this board. from PT International : natrby: I will tell what I was told,as many of you know Dr.D and I have been friends for 20 years,He was contacted and was asked to get the shareholders to rally and call Moran and ask why the interpleader has not been filed. natrby: I do not know who contacted him but I trust Dr.D he just does not put things like this out. Now, do you really think that someone from the company would phone Dr.D to get the shareholders riled up to phone Moran to file the interpleader? Think about this. It smells of a set-up.
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Post by kibert79 on Dec 19, 2006 15:44:01 GMT -6
Remember we are in the "stock play FOR a lifetime". golfer, you spelled OF wrong......it's O-F, not F-O-R.
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Post by pjannetto on Dec 19, 2006 15:53:01 GMT -6
from PT International : natrby: I will tell what I was told,as many of you know Dr.D and I have been friends for 20 years,He was contacted and was asked to get the shareholders to rally and call Moran and ask why the interpleader has not been filed. natrby: I do not know who contacted him but I trust Dr.D he just does not put things like this out. Now, do you really think that someone from the company would phone Dr.D to get the shareholders riled up to phone Moran to file the interpleader? Think about this. It smells of a set-up. Texastea, With all respect, yes I do! I have very little doubt that this is what actually happened. IMO there are good reasons why this has kicked up as much dust as it has.
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Post by go2guy on Dec 19, 2006 16:09:28 GMT -6
It is my lot in life to evaluate, analyze and theorize. A never ending search for the big picture. we have a lot in common my friend.... Couldn't agree more...Problem is that people often don't like to see what comes into focus.. Brig, this hotline stuff was in the works and would be PR'd on the 22nd. I seriously doubt that suddenly all this happened because some decided to flood the phone lines. The interpleader won't be filed this year, IMHO... But hey, we all feel good! And it doesn't matter if we were right or wrong...right?
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Post by pjannetto on Dec 19, 2006 16:44:48 GMT -6
Enlighten us Cobra Texastea, With all respect, yes I do! I have very little doubt that this is what actually happened. IMO there are good reasons why this has kicked up as much dust as it has. Nice one Scorp! My turn next!
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